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Posted 25 May 2009 - 03:59 AM

Dutch, take it easy


Lol. I am. Although admittingly I should have used more smileys yes. :lol: Excusez moi.

Now, your comments may be more useful for Dixon, i'm not interested anymore in the Nikon D60 though it remains a good option.


Lol. Most of my comment are digital photography comments targeted at entry-level, non brand specific. :lol:

I had a look at the EOS 1000D (also a good option) but the Canon EOS 450D is IMHO a really good compromise. As it was your first baby you do know that!!! The more i read about this device the more i'm interested in it. Needless to say, i'm very tempted.

Your opinion as a user of that EOS would be much appreciated. I'm wondering if the 450D is good for a beginner...EOS 1000D is for sure.


Definately get the 450D over the 1000D if you have the budget, both are excellent entry-levels. :lol:

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 04:03 AM

Considering the entry levels do not shoot full frame, a 18-200 gives you great versatily (from macro to zoom) at a effective range of 27-300. Hence, the 70-200 shoots at 105-300, which depending on the type of photos you want to take an alternative yes. But bear in mind 105 is already quite zoomy meaning you need more distance from camera to subject to get the right composition. Below 35mm and you start distorting you capture. The Sigma I really enjoyed working with, it is v.robust and of good quality build. It is very versatily and shoots good quallity photos. It is a tat slow and noisy, but seriously at entry-level you won't notice. It is a great lens all around.

About the fora. The specialist are either (1) pro photographers, they work with a hasselblad system or similar, yes, they will have a problem with this type of lens. Mainly because they shoot portrait and fashion for print at 5000+ pix, but then again they tend to shy away from many fora because of (2) , or (2) technical people with no sense of creativity whom look at fairly meaningless details. For example the 50 mm 1.2 EF L i recently bought get's critique from the latter group of people. What can I say, the lens rocks. And I love fixed focal as it means the photographer has to be active (i.e. walk around to get different compositions and focal lenghts) and it has a better overall quality capture. Not v.useful for the type of photography you want to do DC though. :lol:


Interesting, the Sigma 18-200 as i noticed before may be my final choice :)


Very good choice.

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 04:19 AM

You've put alot of effort into contributing to this thread Dutch and I'm sure I speak for Josh too when I say it is much appreciated.


No worries, just passing on what I was told when I started. I got soo much bluntness for making noob comments to some of my friends. Not to even begin the complete disection, or should I say destroying, of each and every single picture I took. Lol. But that's the way I learned it. :lol:

The Canon EOS 450D does look tempting and I will certainly have a closer look when I do some handling in-store.


Did we manage to turn you into considering Canon? Job done. Lol. Seriously, have a google for the differences in censor and processor too. CMOS censor on Canon is widely recognised.

Canon EOS 450D vs. Nikon D60:
450D has 9 point AF (D60=3)


The 9 AF points can be easily perceived as an advatage yes, and ofc you should always take over 3 AF points. But do consider that the AF is not that accurate (as with most entry levels I suppose) so you may want to manually focus at the centre point and then re-compose (spelling?) your composition whilst maintaining initial focus point. So then the differentiation becomes less important.

Also, considering your comment that you'll have a few years with the set up, which is what I did. You'll start noticing sooner rather then later that ultimately you want the control over focus and composition and not let the AF (read: machine) decide. When you go testing different bodies, be sure to include this: change from auto to manual focus, set your manual focus to centre, focus in, press shutter half way, recompose and fire. you'll notice the freedom of control of manual focus.

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 05:47 AM

Dutch, mai pen rai!!! I may be as sensitive as you... :wink: :lol:

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 05:53 AM

You've put alot of effort into contributing to this thread Dutch and I'm sure I speak for Josh too when I say it is much appreciated


Yes you do Dixon!

Dutch knows a thing or two :lol: . I enjoyed his pics of superstar Nook...Well, enough compliments :)

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 02:19 PM

Definitely my choice:

http://www.canon.co...._450D/index.asp

Now the Sigma 18-200 f/3.5 - 6.3 DC may not be the good choice for me:

http://www.ephotozin...m-f3563-DC-4354

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 09:35 PM

dutchcowboy is definitely enthusiastic and knowledgeable! Just some other things to think about. If you don't have the budget to buy a better lens to start with some kit lenses are ok for shots that you don't expect to use at sizes not bigger than 11"x14". Keep in mind that prints will generally look better than on your computer screen.

Something mentioned earlier is that if you decide to shoot raw, which is kind of like the digital equivalent of a negative, you have more flexibility to make adjustments that can compensate for initial exposure mistakes. It take a bit more work though doing post processing with a suitable raw converter. Also the files tend to be bigger, so you need more storage and computing power.

It is easy to get lost in the specs, while dutchcowboy is a Canon fan, and I am a Sony/Minolta fan, you will get good results with any of the major DSLR brands, providing you learn to use it right. It is really important you have a chance to handle the camera before you buy it. Even if you plan an on-line purchase, get yourself to a shop anyway. Take along a memory card and shoot a few photos so you can get an idea of what it is like. Also it helps to determine what kinds of photos you think you will take. Sports, portraits, and landscape photos all require different technique. This can also affect your lens selection - sports you will want a longer focal length but also a faster (larger lens opening) fstop. These are expensive lenses and heavy since more glass elements are needed for the design.

As I mentioned earlier, Sony is bringing out 3 new models this year, the Alpha A230, A330 and A380. Keep an eye on the prices for the old models the A200, A300 and A350 as there could be some good clearance deals.

Live view is something that is useful in certain circumstances - I wouldn't consider it essential. Also be aware that certain types of live view have slow focus which limit it to photos of slow or static objects. The optical viewfinder is superior to live view at this time.

Another thing is be aware of the color reproduction from the different camera makers. You may prefer a certain "look".

So don't rush your decision, go out and actually handle the cameras, try to take some photos with them, and be sure you are comfortable using them.

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 02:25 AM

Definitely my choice:

http://www.canon.co...._450D/index.asp

Now the Sigma 18-200 f/3.5 - 6.3 DC may not be the good choice for me:

http://www.ephotozin...m-f3563-DC-4354


Nice. Nice. Great set up. But eh, how come the lens is not to your liking, article is quite 'soft' on the lens, apart from the tele range quality, but then again you tend to shoot at 280-300 (effective) constantly? LOL. Eh, yes, best get a tele then instead. :lol: Versatility outweighs the quality drawback at uber tele focal lenghts IMHO. depends on your usage i suppose but think we all mentioned that.

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 02:31 AM

dutchcowboy is definitely enthusiastic [...]



Lol. Well that made me smile. You should see me shoot. Lol. But eh hey, can't write much about LOS , yet, noob and all. Finally something I can actually contribute a little too. :lol:

It is easy to get lost in the specs, while dutchcowboy is a Canon fan, and I am a Sony/Minolta fan, you will get good results with any of the major DSLR brands, providing you learn to use it right.


Lol. Hey, i thought i was doing pretty good in hiding my affection for the brand, you on the other hand ... , lol, hahaha. Seriously, so agree with the rest of your statement. Nicely put. :lol:

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 04:04 AM

My criteria is one that takes good shots but that can be slipped into a back pocket – in other words a compact digital. The latest PC Pro magazine (July 2009) has a good review article and recommends Canon Digital Ixus 95 IS (winner), Canon PowerShot A480 (Best Value) and Nikon Coolpix S220.

I have just opted for the S220 and you should see the results next month!

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 04:56 AM

Rxpharm, thanks for your advice.

Don't worry i always take my time when buying a new toy!!! I read many articles, forums (opinion of users). I watch videos etc Sure, i will go to the shop and handle it. I did it for my compact...

Concerning the sony alpha; i find it too bulky despite the fact it has many qualities.

I think i'll be a canonist :) though i keep investigating!

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 05:19 AM

Nice. Nice. Great set up. But eh, how come the lens is not to your liking, article is quite 'soft' on the lens, apart from the tele range quality, but then again you tend to shoot at 280-300 (effective) constantly? LOL. Eh, yes, best get a tele then instead. :lol: Versatility outweighs the quality drawback at uber tele focal lenghts IMHO. depends on your usage i suppose but think we all mentioned that.


I don't like the colour!!! I want a black body with a pink Lens :shock: :lol:

Come on Dutch, you know i like the Sigma Lens 18-200 (read my previous posts).
It is really practical, you don't have to change the Lens (so there will be less dust on your sensor). I'm hesitating. Have a look at that:

http://www.the-digit...ens-Review.aspx




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