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[petesie]

It has been reported through this forum that the Hotel and the Club are 2 separate entities owned and managed by 2 different groups.

I never knew that and presumably neither did the rest of us so any complaints regarding the behavior of the staff at the club has no bearing whatsoever on the running and management of the Hotel.

Sorry Chase if there has been any confusion.

I really do hope that this crap regarding customer service is sorted out as it is doing the club no good whatsoever; while there may be a Japanese Tour group following swiftly behind the previous customer the membership and future membership of this Forum take advice from what is reported on here.

Shit only rolls one way.

[360]

I think we're all wrong. It is just a problem of mislabeling. If it had occurred in High-Boss we'd not say a thing. In fact, if it was high-boss it wouldn't have come about because we'd all be more alert and keep our guards up. Our problem is that we buy into the illusion of the nice decor and set-up of the club and then at the end of the day like a child in the circus we're sometimes frustrated to learn that it's all a sham. If you start treating it like a soi 6/1 joint instead of a 13/4 venue you'd see that it will all sort itself.
If you accept that, you'd probably be back to loving the place - because the girls are amazing and the set-up is cool.

[pacman]

Thank you for your Candid response Pacman. I do differ in opinion somewhat but I do agree that it is good to have someone who ensures a more balanced discussion.

You're welcome & thank you.

Regarding the ownership issue: If he is just property owner then I withdraw my comments. However if he also owns the business that operates the bar then he has to take some responsability IMO. I don't believe that not being able to enter the property because if title issues is an excuse.

The management ultimately has to wear the responsibility for everything that happens inside the bar. Why else would they have invested heavily in a computerised bill system. Every drink can be accounted for with a signed docket that is then presented to the customer when they pay their tab. This was all set up in order to avoid accusations of over charging.

As I have mentioned before, I wish I was so well protected in other places.

Anyway, we can agree to disagree, because as you say, this bar is here to stay. Hopefully the behaviour improves but I can't see myself visiting the bar. A shame, because I have stayed in the hotel and it was fun and the staff were fine. Cheers Pacman.

I have stayed at the hotel several times & always felt welcome. If you never return to the bar, then it is your loss. I am sure one night you won't be able to resist the temptation to pop your head in to check out the girls..... & look at all the unhappy customers...

As for the behaviour, Riga will talk to the girls & things will improve. It always does. But all bets are off when the next drunken farang starts tossing 1000 baht notes around. Then every Thai in the place will once again be looking at how they can share some of the guy's wealth.

What would you expect them to do?

[pacman]

Packers,
Can't remember where but I'm sure I read somewhere that Obsessions and the Penthouse hotel are two separate businesses owned by Thai families.

Yes, that's correct. When I talk about the farang management, I am not talking about the legal ownership. The bar & the hotel are two separate entities, neither of which is owned by a foreigner.

But there still exists the problem of access to the bar by the manager. Amazing Thailand.

[xyzzy]

I think we're all wrong. It is just a problem of mislabeling. If it had occurred in High-Boss we'd not say a thing. In fact, if it was high-boss it wouldn't have come about because we'd all be more alert and keep our guards up. Our problem is that we buy into the illusion of the nice decor and set-up of the club and then at the end of the day like a child in the circus we're sometimes frustrated to learn that it's all a sham. If you start treating it like a soi 6/1 joint instead of a 13/4 venue you'd see that it will all sort itself.
If you accept that, you'd probably be back to loving the place - because the girls are amazing and the set-up is cool.

Always interesting when someone seemingly very knowledgeable magically shows up and makes a first post telling us why the place really isn't so bad. Although at least the poster has been a member for a while so I guess didn't create a new identity just to pass this jewel of wisdom along.

I'm more careful in Obsessions than most anywhere else because the place had a bad rep since it was an all GG Gogo. So I was prepared when they tried to short change me a few weeks ago. I grow weary and now avoid the place unless I'm with other BMs that just have to go in. And perhaps I won't even do that anymore.

FWIW the Pook bars have been ripped pretty good on this board for some of their practices. Not to mention the face of another bar that no longer posts.

[SammyCan]

Hey xyzzy,

How about denver62 and his first post? This one is OK for you. For you first posts are okay as long as they are negative, rude and antagonistic?

[dixon cox]

... Not to mention the face of another bar that no longer posts.

The sulker and skulker (just to cover both possibiilities re: the reference above) don't do themselves any favours by disappearing after such large presences on the forum, it just makes them look rather childish and huffy, respectively.

Best thing to do for a bar owner/manager is to just take it on the chin and carry on regardless and try to accept that not everything said about their bar or staff will always be good news.

Some bars just find themselves with negative news far more than others (which did not include the skulker and sulker), so there has to be some truth in the negative reports. After all is said and done the punters will just vote with their feet. Hence, almost zero happy reports about some bars.

[SammyCan]

If there is one thing that denver62 hates more than Obsessions its full stops Welcome to the board fella.....................

So trousersnake, care to explain your posting. I don't understand. Maybe others don't as well?

[pacman]

Sammy, please don't look for offense when there is none. Trousersnake was making a jocular observation that denver62's post was completely devoid of any punctuation.

Not just the full stops that were lacking, there was a pronounced absence of capital letters as well. Fortunately this is a forum dedicated to the better things in life, we all left the confines of school long ago...

[donnykey]

The management ultimately has to wear the responsibility for everything that happens inside the bar. Why else would they have invested heavily in a computerised bill system. Every drink can be accounted for with a signed docket that is then presented to the customer when they pay their tab. This was all set up in order to avoid accusations of over charging.

That is just not correct Paccers. All they have to do is add additional "unordered" drinks which appear on your final tab.

This is a fact....It has happened to me more than once and when I questioned the bill it was fixed up to my satisfaction, so I have no problem about returning there again, as I like the place ....and a few girls there also



Cheers DK

[Legend]

If you start treating it like a soi 6/1 joint instead of a 13/4 venue you'd see that it will all sort itself.
If you accept that, you'd probably be back to loving the place - because the girls are amazing and the set-up is cool.

That is a good point.
it is the cleanest of all the brothels.
except of course riga, she stinks like a fat guy down my gym.

[pattayaobsessions]

After further investigation we would like to announce that relevant to the issue of a few nights back, the girl in question has been suspended for 15 nights and, a complimentary bottle of Bar Champagne to the unlucky couple.

Thank you for bringing this so privately to our attention....

Much appreciated!

... and hope that you are enjoying your Penthouse Room / Suite and will consider one of their Theme/Pool Deck/Jacuzzi Rooms / Suites next time.