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#85 boarhog

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 04:48 PM

Great thread...
Thanks especially to Boarhog. His energy and imagination will make sure that TLFs remains firmly in everyone's mind all the time.
There's nothing quite like a total whack job doing all your publicity for free!


I'm happy to publicise you not honouring your word, that you would delete posts/threads on request. You silence this talk on your pay 4 view site. We even have other publiscist over here. Erichalfabee, Fridgemagent, Ozzie, more to come by the looks.

How come you won't address that? If your so delighted why the threats in PM's that you have my real address? Just another facade? Who is the whack job?
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Posted 10 January 2010 - 04:49 PM

CL thoughtful discussions - yes, TLF is using an affiliate based pay per click model.


Thanks. Does TLF have a profit goal? Or is the PPC used to solely secure availability of the forum? If there is a profit goal, which assuming there is, my initial statement holds:

The server and / or bandwith capacity need as reason for payment for a VIP section on a public forum doesn't hold. The forum itself is a revenue generating mechanism. With every click through / sign up on affiliate sites / hotel bookings , et al. TLF will get a % of the revenue generated. As such any investment to customers can use the site is an investment made by a company with the purpose of securing revenue from there business model.

Considering the 80/20 rule of revenue generation does not apply to the web (reference: long tail), it in fact may not be a smart business decision. May be different in the TLF case, as it could be it has a very small and loyal customer base. It sounds not very business sensible to have you customers pay 100% for the cost incrurred to secure profit margins. Customer dissatisfaction ultimately will lead to declining profits.

#87 fridgemagnet

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 04:52 PM

Thanks Ozzie - more Phillipines pics and info will me of major interest to me, and lots of other LB lovers, I'm sure.
I agree with your points 1,2 &3 - 4 I'm not sure of - the whole scene is changing - LB's on W.S. all want money for pics, silly money is being delivered by newbies who regard these delicious boy prostitutes as godesses (when better can be found on the streets), and LB bars want lots of puffing (surely not for free?) to lure the newbies.
I'm not down on newbies, but they are the easy marks where money is concerned, so they are targeted by all & sundry.
So 4 may not come to pass. If there actually is a surge in newbie interest, Kaiser Stogie may well have decided to try and fleece them.
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#88 Ladyboy Lust

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 05:13 PM

Hello

Without getting emotional I love to reply. Boarhog I think this shows again how far fetched Stogie's real world is. Any new member should consider with what kind of frustrated ego they have to deal with.

Stogie is entitled to have his views but he should accept that any person that disagrees has that same right. There lays the problem for Stogie. He simply cannot. In that way he is a dictator. Another problem is his enormous greed and hate. Ask the royal household surrounding the porcelain princess. They are far more revealing about the real person Stogie than any Snick, Bam or RXpharm will ever be. Most ladyboys hate Stogie's guts for putting thailadyboy dvd's on the market. Including Thailand.

Also Stogie gives so much insight without realizing himself. Stiffy world was worth a real study. First his political views. But far more interesting his fascination with Paul Francis Gadd.

Think about this:

Sad so few still remember Stogie's article about Gary Glitter on his stiffy world site. There he pitied poor Paul. Being harassed by the British press because of possible molesting under-aged girls. Stogie said they should leave this singer alone. Ok so far no problem or insight about Stogie. But the second part of that article was far more interesting or far fetching. There you could read how beautiful it would be for any underage person to be initiated in sex by an older person. For example a Glitter man or perhaps a rusty nail with a bicycle bump.

Personally I think thoughts like this are sick to the bone. But this is my view. Many of his sycophants simply silenced or even agreed. All to keep Chiang Stogie satisfied. I protested and there I got the Gestapo on my back. Only in revealing personal information they made a fatal mistake. RXpharm do you get my message now!!!!!!!!!
Because buddy you have a lot to explain to the real person.
Yes in October RX or Stogie you nearly catched up with me when I got some angry nasty ladyboy on my thai phone.

So if you study Stogie to the letter I'm pretty sure you can dig up more.

Perhaps Stogie can save his kisses for Gary or start coming up with real explanations. Or at least stop harassing members who's only wish was to leave after they tasted too much of old poppycock. Instead Stogie's way of saying goodbye was intimidation and threats. Daring to put real private information on the net. In my case he got the wrong information. RXpharm was highly involved in that case. He had the contacts. So please forget about his good name. He studied but what does that mean?
Also RX is very quick putting links to dissidents

Yes Stogie is so right. TLF stays in everybody's mind like Paul Francis Gadd. Perhaps Stogie wants hot sex with a Glitter man. I think even most TLF members prefer otherwise.





Great thread...

Thanks especially to Boarhog. His energy and imagination will make sure that TLFs remains firmly in everyone's mind all the time.

There's nothing quite like a total whack job doing all your publicity for free!

Kisses...

Bumpa, Stogie, Mr Grumpy, Rusty Nail, Bicycle Pump, and many many more!



#89 CL

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 05:15 PM

[...] doing all your [negative] publicity for free!


I am not taking a standpoint, merely interested in some of the thoughts shared in this thread. Much seems to be based on personal opinion not on actual knowledge per se. Right, with your statement above I disagree. Free publicity through negative exposure is an offline (read: old) thought and does not apply to the web. It never has. It never will. Again, it portrays a clear misunderstanding of online marketing.

Very simple reasoning. The reach of one dissatisfied customer is many, many more time powerful using digital media. Example, I am a newbie interested in meeting like-minded. Where do I go? Search engine. Where else would I go? One you have the challenge to compete on search terms which are highly competitive for both natural and commercial rankings (i.e. investment required either cost of effort to get your code set up or purchase expensive keywords).

Two, more importantly, you are also competing with for example review and community sites. These, based on the Google algorithm, are perceived as independent and will receive a higher score on certain variables in the algorithm leading to a automatic higher ranking in the search results. As such, the exposure of negative customer comment has not only a huge reach on the web, new customers are also likely to be exposed to this negative publicitity. Customer behaviour on the web has learned us that the probability that customers opt for a competitor is far greater compared to chosing the company under scrutany. Obviously it is important for the 'negative' exposure to be a objective as possible, and not based on emotive personal reasons.

Point is, you may be able to retain your current customer base, hoewever, any acquisition of new customers will be negatively impacted, consequently your revenue growth through PPC may suffer, ultimately your profits may decline. This is in the online world an area of PR called SERM, search enginge reputation management. There are some counter measures you can take. One you can push positive customer stories or attack ungrounded negative exposure legally, and obviously you can market through neutral sites and ultimately buy a stack of backlinks. Regardless, if will cost you, cost of effort or money.

Another useful piece of information here is that many leading brands measure there site performance through something called advocacy score. We dont only look any more at user satisfaction, goal completion rates, et al. and have discarded long time ago traffic measurement as primary KPI, those are useful for site development. The advocacy score tells us the extent to which a visitor will actively promote/advocate the brand to others, online and offline based on their experience on online channels, be they .com or localised .com's, online stores or social platforms. There is a statistically significant link between this score and profitability both through online sales as well as offline, and the root cause analysis allows us to improve the overall site experience and make business decisions.

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 05:23 PM

Just had a quick look at TLF. Doesn't actually take me to the forum, rather a PPC/Promo page with click throughs to the forum, which are snowed under by PPC ads. Do like there sinanges though: "New. Cool. Free" and "home of the most lively discussion [...]." Lively I am sure it is, New, cool and free it sure doesnt seem to be. But that is just a personaly opinion cause it made me giggle. On the other hand LB-69 is v.transparent for customers. You know where the money comes from (subscription, cam), you know what the forum is for (community building, marketing mechanism). Both fora contain similar content. I only use LB-69 as it has a cool vibe, active users meaning new content, active development of new functionality, and it's free.

#91 boarhog

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 05:33 PM

Point is, you be able to retain your current customer base, hoewever, any acquisition of new customers will be negatively impacted, consequently your revenue growth through PPC may suffer, ultimately your profits may decline. This is in the online world an area of PR called SERM, search enginge reputation management. There are some counter measures you can take. One you can push positive customer stories or attack ungrounded negative exposure legally, and obviously you can market through neutral sites and ultimately buy a stack of backlinks. Regardless, if will cost you, cost of effort or money.


Damn! sounds like a lot of hassle. Wouldn't it have been a lot easier to have kept his word about deleting posts/threads on request? I guess that would have meant integrity and you can't buy that. Is there any value in threatening past members as a counter measure for damage control?
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Thanks CL for a very informative look into internet site revenue.
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#92 Ladyboy Lust

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 06:21 PM

Hello

CI my thanks too. Posting real names, ID's etc is of course bad publicity . Any newbie will say not for me. I also ask myself what legal consequences are there when a site starts posting real names and phone numbers. TLF did many times by "accident".
In one of their threads I read a while back how a person's real name was mentioned. This was about ladyboy escorts sites in Thailand.

Boarhog I think Joe Harper is another Stogie or RXPharm identity.
Like you I still have access but can't use any option except reading. Look how that post is written. Full of incorrect English texts. Typical Stogie/RXPharm style. And look who responds the "lovely" Nang Fha. Be aware that they will try to copy your identity on other websites. My advice become member on other websites before they highjack your forum name. Even if you never post there.

This happened to that other person I'm referring too. RXpharm was involved into that hoax. The wanker who provided the wrong information had good contacts around that period with RXPharm. They were both interested in camera's. One of RXPharm's other obsessions. He was hoping to become a moderator on TLF too. Sorry for him but Stogie liked white power only.

That Ozzie joins lb69 is a major blow to Stogie. Ozzie has a good name around the LB scene. Because his heart is on the right spot. Stogie on the contrary is losing credit there every day. Mention his real name and you are amazed what trash comes up. Even Thais get tired of his Gestapo methods.

The problem in LB land is one person. Stogie himself. Starting as a climax but now becoming the greatest fake in lb history. Walking on thin ice.






Point is, you be able to retain your current customer base, hoewever, any acquisition of new customers will be negatively impacted, consequently your revenue growth through PPC may suffer, ultimately your profits may decline. This is in the online world an area of PR called SERM, search enginge reputation management. There are some counter measures you can take. One you can push positive customer stories or attack ungrounded negative exposure legally, and obviously you can market through neutral sites and ultimately buy a stack of backlinks. Regardless, if will cost you, cost of effort or money.


Damn! sounds like a lot of hassle. Wouldn't it have been a lot easier to have kept his word about deleting posts/threads on request? I guess that would have meant integrity and you can't buy that. Is there any value in threatening past members as a counter measure for damage control?
:D

Thanks CL for a very informative look into internet site revenue.
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Posted 10 January 2010 - 06:34 PM

They were both interested in camera's. One of RXPharm's other obsessions. He was hoping to become a moderator on TLF too. Sorry for him but Stogie liked white power only.


I like camera's too. RX knows. And I also like RX contributions. He knows that too.

I am sorry to hear about the racism based decision. I come from a country where that is not an issue, nor do I personally agree with such basis for decision making.

Let me be clear, I do not wish to be involved in any good-bad discussion. I am just sharing some insights.

#94 Ladyboy Lust

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 09:20 PM

Hello CI

Please take it easy. All members here are happy to read your excellent background information about the internet. Nobody is pulling you in any good or bad discussion.

Again I regret that I have to use lb69 to get some kind of reaction from Stogie or RXPharm. It has nothing to do with you. I wished TLF was run by decent persons like you. Then this was not necessary.

RXPharm is an intelligent person but under a Stogie spell. I don't mind or get angry when a person correspond with him or any other member. Only I have a serious problem with RXPharm. It has nothing to do with camera's or internet information.

This man did something wrong , caused a lot of trouble by mixing up identities and thinks he can get away with that. Also it is clear he misuses his part as moderator on TLF. As a pharmacist he disappoints me. Doctors, dentists, pharmacists should know how to handle privacy matters. Clearly RXPharm failed on the internet. I hope for him he never failed in his profession. But of course only RXpharm can give that answer.

The Joe Harper Hoax was just another example how childish TLF is handling the whole situation. About an older guy coming out of the closet after his wife discovers he paid a bill to TLF. First fearing the consequences but then so happy. In the end he admits he will dress up like a lady. Typical Stogie humor. If this is the current state of mind Stogie is in then clearly Stogie you need help.

For any Joe Harper fans. Sorry guys, RXPharm was quick enough to realize how stupid they were so the post was deleted.
Personally I wonder how an intelligent man like RXPharm got hooked up with a dodgy character called Stogie. Again only RXPharm can give that answer.

CI , in a way Stogie should say thank you because you showed him how the market really works. That is not being pulled in a good/bad situation but just cold hard facts that keep any business going or will slowly finish it off.

So again the guy I'm referring to has nothing to do with you. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.

When the time comes I will reveal in a certain way.


quote="CL"][quote]They were both interested in camera's. One of RXPharm's other obsessions. He was hoping to become a moderator on TLF too. Sorry for him but Stogie liked white power only. [/quote]

I like camera's too. RX knows. And I also like RX contributions. He knows that too.

I am sorry to hear about the racism based decision. I come from a country where that is not an issue, nor do I personally agree with such basis for decision making.

Let me be clear, I do not wish to be involved in any good-bad discussion. I am just sharing some insights.[/quote]

#95 Ladyboy Lust

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 09:40 PM

Hello

After I irritated bumpa sticka I ended up in pretty much the same situation. I can log in but I have no access to my pms. Neither can I post. Again this is not what I wished for.

How is this possible RXPharm? I like a complete delete not this.

Also bumpa offered me a free BJ before blocking parts of my inbox there.

Now again RXPharm is this customer friendly policy or needed?




I also have no access to my PM's which had several contacts of several BM over there.



How can you log on to TLF and not have access to your pms?



#96 stogie bear

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 09:57 PM

Boarhog, you are internet gold dust.

Thanks for all the time and effort you are spending on this thread.

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