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#25 Newdude

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 06:17 PM

Yeah but some of them are boys in satin, dude.


Would they call themselves "boys"?


Well I'd like to call myself brilliant, handsome, sexy and an all round nice guy but then again would it be true!

Okay we have to come clean and say the forum is not politically correct, and if thats your thing you might not find the forum to your liking, I still smile when I think of one of the BM's who refers in a strong irish brogue to many of the LB's in the P4P bars as wee little boys in skirts. (Of course they are little, they are boys and they are wearing skirts.)

Of course if we say they are boys does that make me gay! Okay they are ladies and that means I'm not gay ...


In a thread where EVERYONE goes on and on and on about how much respect they show the gals and blah blah blah. Respecting their gender I would think is pretty basic.

It's not about PC - it's about respect. You call the LBs "lads", you'd call my girl a "lad" ad that would not be correct.

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 07:01 PM

All seems a bit over sensitive and full of semantics.

They are in the P4P business - Hookers.
Just because of what they choose to do for a living does not mean treating them like 'pieces of meat'. Treat them like anyone else providing a service and acknowledge that they have feelings just as you do.

Common sense should prevail not a litany of ethics and behavioral requirements.

A GG or LB not in the P4P business - refer to a courting site/marriage guidance counselor.

Most BMs I have met seem to agree that plain old honesty works best. I know what really irritates many P4P LBs is the guy promising to return when he has no intention of doing so. If you are leaving her bar just be honest - I am out for the evening visiting other bars and am not likely to be back this evening. That was not so hard was it?
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Posted 29 June 2009 - 07:01 PM

In a thread where EVERYONE goes on and on and on about how much respect they show the gals and blah blah blah. Respecting their gender I would think is pretty basic.

It's not about PC - it's about respect. You call the LBs "lads", you'd call my girl a "lad" ad that would not be correct.


I didnt read the thread as everyone going on about respect, I think some people would like to jump on a soapbox and babble on about how much better they are than everyone else and compare apples to orange to justify there statements. (Of course then they are so MUCH MORE respectful than the rest of us!) this is simply a forum discussing LB's and most often in the P4P arena which isnt PC, why would I single out gender to respect! I'm gender neutral I'm happy to respect anyone regardless of their gender or sexual preferances.

I didnt actually call anyone a lad, I did say that they were small boys in skirts which unless I'm missing something is exactly what they are, (Of course it seems many people dont have a sense of humor and cannot see a joke or tongue in cheek expression without dropping off the deep end which to me IS political correctness at its worst.)

Are you sure that the whole issue isnt more around the fact that you feel more comfortable saying you are dating a lady rather than something else?

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 09:00 PM

So WTF are you debating or has the fact that your writing on a forum that is sponsored by a porn site that specializes in LB porn and provides on the paid Website the names and numbers of the ladies so that members can get together for paid sex.


Well, ofcourse you're right, sweetheart. It was the wrong forum to post anything of a mere degree of trans*substance. You have your fun now, guys! Enjoy your secret kink, and hopefully them little Newcastle wifeys of yours never find out that you SO enjoy to have your peni up in.... what is the term here... "blokes"...

I started out with a relevant question and got all this self-hating stuff back. The fact is that guys here DO give "good and experienced" advice on deeper things... the fact is also that it appears to be sorta hollow and based on really nothing...

Not a single one of you truly knows what transsexuality is about. Sure, you know how to blow them and how to bargain prices and where to find them, But I dare to say that not one of you here dare to take your apparent sexual fascination one step further.

And that's actually sad, because maybe, just MAYBE you'd find the same happiness that I've found and am obviously getting seriously flemed for here.

The fact is that to me the entire concept of transsexuality has proven to be such an amazingly beautiful thing that in it's core value holds both pain and courage to a degree that few of us can really relate to. Well, luckily I can, and I feel blessed by that fact.

I feel blessed that I've been welcomed into the trans community the way I have. I feel thankful that most of my friends are transsexual. I feel humble to know that a very special group of people have opened their hearts to me.

And I especially feel an enormous amount of respect for people with that kind of courage and love.

Good for me, you'd probably say. And who cares? Well, I care! Cause the fact remains that you guys leave your fat little wives, fly over for a week, fuck your little brains and dicks out, and go back to those fat little wives without even a consideration of the darlings, you leave behind - the "blokes" you leave behind.

Do continue your trade, but NEVER rest in peace that your materialistic approach has no consequences. They appear such a gay bunch when you pick them up in Kings Castle III and what ever the names of the bars. But they're not happy in the morning...

These girls are girls as much as any other girls. And now I'm returning to my initial point which noone has seemed to bother about.

So for those of you who'd bother, please go back to my post and comment on it, if you have the time.

Peace!

H

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 09:08 PM

no point mate.
you know it all.

you ever thought about starting your own church.?
"im sure if u look around u can find a sunken face under caloried 10 year vet tranny bar girl, her face might not be as uniquely sunken or her ass dents so dented but just have a look, life is full of options." - boomdraw.

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 09:14 PM

Hank I just want to say I agree with you 100% ...

I nearly lost the most wonderful girl ever - I think you know her Hank. ...

The fact that the community lets guys get over calling LBs "blokes" and "Lads" or "boys in satin" doesn't really say much about respect. You can show anyone respect - but that is not the same as respecting someone (my gf says that lots)


Yes, my friend. I do know her ;-) She's one of my most cherished chat-friends and you'd better do your best to hold on to that gorgeous woman :-) I envy you, and I promise you that had I been in your part of the world I'd give you a serious run for her. She's a darling, and she means a lot to me. I'm so happy for you two!

And she has this sharpness and ability to pinpoint stuff by her vernacular that I envy her. Added to the fact that she's SUCH a princess!

Grrr... you're a very fortunate dude :-) Give her my regards, plz.

H

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 09:20 PM

no point mate.
you know it all.

you ever thought about starting your own church.?


So as a ladyboy-tourist you merely dismiss my opinion as something that should become a figurative CHURCH?

I don't get it at all...

But it's not important anyways... I rest my case.

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 09:57 PM

I also understand that you have this twisted view of what an LB really is. I understand that LBs themselves would consider themselves to be women, but when it comes down to it, they have XY chromosomes, no plastic surgery or medical procedure can change that, so technically these "ladies" of whom you speak, are in fact MEN, and that is absolute truth.

I also applaud you for respecting people, apparently ur parents raised you proper.

oh and thank you for telling me about this forum! lol

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 10:10 PM

Well, ofcourse you're right, sweetheart. It was the wrong forum to post anything of a mere degree of trans*substance. You have your fun now, guys! Enjoy your secret kink, and hopefully them little Newcastle wifeys of yours never find out that you SO enjoy to have your peni up in.... what is the term here... "blokes"...


Wow Dorothy, what has come over you it seems anytime someone disagrees with your drivel that compares apples to oranges you resort to off the cuff demeaning stereotypes, as mentioned there was no real substance to the post, so how was one meant to reply? I hate to break it to you dear but I don’t live in the UK and no wifey, but when would that stop you trying to fit us all into square boxes. (Can we say narrow minded!)

I started out with a relevant question and got all this self-hating stuff back. The fact is that guys here DO give "good and experienced" advice on deeper things... the fact is also that it appears to be sorta hollow and based on really nothing...


Yes dear your question might have been relevant had you been discussing relationships with LB’s outside of the P4P environment and all that it entails, but you had to jump on a soapbox and start comparing and attacking others over posts on completely differing subject. (ie relationship in the P4P environment which you stated you had no firsthand knowledge of.) I’m sure it’s probably an issue of you feeling small or unimportant but that’s okay there are people out there who can help you.

Not a single one of you truly knows what transsexuality is about. Sure, you know how to blow them and how to bargain prices and where to find them, But I dare to say that not one of you here dare to take your apparent sexual fascination one step further.


Oh Dear so the all knowing Hank is the world expert on relationships with transsexuals, glad you got that off your chest at least we know you have a good self opinion. Of course we know how to blow them if you don’t, I can send pictures that demonstrates the required techniques. You seem to miss it again let me go slow … This forum is based on P4P so discussing pricing is likely to be discussed!

And that's actually sad, because maybe, just MAYBE you'd find the same happiness that I've found and am obviously getting seriously flemed for here.


Dorothy you are getting flamed for your self serving posts that attack anybody that disagrees with your view when you compare apples to oranges and then jump on the trusty soapbox telling us all how wonderful you are. If you’re so happy again I’m happy for you but I am sad that you do appear so delusional, again perhaps you could seek help.

The fact is that to me the entire concept of transsexuality has proven to be such an amazingly beautiful thing that in it's core value holds both pain and courage to a degree that few of us can really relate to. Well, luckily I can, and I feel blessed by that fact.


Don’t you just love someone who has found religion and then wishes to inflict it on everyone else, yes Hank you are the expert on all things transsexual, there is nothing better in the world, it is the only way to go with a relationship. (Personally I’m just looking for that someone special, whether LB, GG or perhaps a goat but just someone I can enjoy my life with! and if it happens to be any of the above I won’t go jumping on a soapbox and judging anyone elses choices as less than mine I promise!)

I feel blessed that I've been welcomed into the trans community the way I have. I feel thankful that most of my friends are transsexual. I feel humble to know that a very special group of people have opened their hearts to me.


Great to hear you’ve got friends, kind of saddened that you appear so narrow minded that you only appear to consider having trans friends as being special, I personally have friends across all genders, ages and races and none of them are more special than the others, their all special to me! (That’s what makes bigots singling groups out as more special than anyone else. Take your time and think about it!)

And I especially feel an enormous amount of respect for people with that kind of courage and love.

So what’s your point??

Good for me, you'd probably say. And who cares? Well, I care! Cause the fact remains that you guys leave your fat little wives, fly over for a week, fuck your little brains and dicks out, and go back to those fat little wives without even a consideration of the darlings, you leave behind - the "blokes" you leave behind.


Dorothy, Dorothy again with the narrow minded stereotypical insults, I will try again very slowly as you seem to have difficulty reading and understanding (Try reading it out loud it might help!) most of us don’t have wives, many of us live in Asia. (I know amazing you’re not the only one out here!!) and based on your rantings I suspect most of us have a higher IQ, oh and as an FYI I’m rather well hung!

Do continue your trade, but NEVER rest in peace that your materialistic approach has no consequences. They appear such a gay bunch when you pick them up in Kings Castle III and what ever the names of the bars. But they're not happy in the morning...


Dorothy at last! Eureka! you finally seem to at least have gotten to the nub you’ve been worrying over since you started posting!!!! You don’t like the idea of P4P, so why the hell are you posting here it’s not an agony aunt column out to save LB’s it’s here to discuss LB’s and most often in the P4P environment and the bar scenes they frequent. Of course your trying to save all us sinners from our debauchery, word to the wise this is not the place or the environment and most of us don’t want to be saved.

These girls are girls as much as any other girls. And now I'm returning to my initial point which noone has seemed to bother about.

You didn’t have a point other than trying to preach some moral standard to the rest of us by trying to camouflage it by comparing apples to oranges. Sorry Dorothy!

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 10:54 PM

[quote][quote]Well, ofcourse you're right, sweetheart. It was the wrong forum to post anything of a mere degree of trans*substance. You have your fun now, guys! Enjoy your secret kink, and hopefully them little Newcastle wifeys of yours never find out that you SO enjoy to have your peni up in.... what is the term here... "blokes"...[/quote]

Wow Dorothy, what has come over you it seems anytime someone disagrees with your drivel that compares apples to oranges you resort to off the cuff demeaning stereotypes, as mentioned there was no real substance to the post, so how was one meant to reply? I hate to break it to you dear but I don’t live in the UK and no wifey, but when would that stop you trying to fit us all into square boxes. (Can we say narrow minded!)

[quote]I started out with a relevant question and got all this self-hating stuff back. The fact is that guys here DO give "good and experienced" advice on deeper things... the fact is also that it appears to be sorta hollow and based on really nothing... [/quote]

Yes dear your question might have been relevant had you been discussing relationships with LB’s outside of the P4P environment and all that it entails, but you had to jump on a soapbox and start comparing and attacking others over posts on completely differing subject. (ie relationship in the P4P environment which you stated you had no firsthand knowledge of.) I’m sure it’s probably an issue of you feeling small or unimportant but that’s okay there are people out there who can help you.

[quote]Not a single one of you truly knows what transsexuality is about. Sure, you know how to blow them and how to bargain prices and where to find them, But I dare to say that not one of you here dare to take your apparent sexual fascination one step further. [/quote]

Oh Dear so the all knowing Hank is the world expert on relationships with transsexuals, glad you got that off your chest at least we know you have a good self opinion. Of course we know how to blow them if you don’t, I can send pictures that demonstrates the required techniques. You seem to miss it again let me go slow … This forum is based on P4P so discussing pricing is likely to be discussed!

[quote]And that's actually sad, because maybe, just MAYBE you'd find the same happiness that I've found and am obviously getting seriously flemed for here. [/quote]

Dorothy you are getting flamed for your self serving posts that attack anybody that disagrees with your view when you compare apples to oranges and then jump on the trusty soapbox telling us all how wonderful you are. If you’re so happy again I’m happy for you but I am sad that you do appear so delusional, again perhaps you could seek help.

[quote]The fact is that to me the entire concept of transsexuality has proven to be such an amazingly beautiful thing that in it's core value holds both pain and courage to a degree that few of us can really relate to. Well, luckily I can, and I feel blessed by that fact. [/quote]

Don’t you just love someone who has found religion and then wishes to inflict it on everyone else, yes Hank you are the expert on all things transsexual, there is nothing better in the world, it is the only way to go with a relationship. (Personally I’m just looking for that someone special, whether LB, GG or perhaps a goat but just someone I can enjoy my life with! and if it happens to be any of the above I won’t go jumping on a soapbox and judging anyone elses choices as less than mine I promise!)

[quote]I feel blessed that I've been welcomed into the trans community the way I have. I feel thankful that most of my friends are transsexual. I feel humble to know that a very special group of people have opened their hearts to me. [/quote]

Great to hear you’ve got friends, kind of saddened that you appear so narrow minded that you only appear to consider having trans friends as being special, I personally have friends across all genders, ages and races and none of them are more special than the others, their all special to me! (That’s what makes bigots singling groups out as more special than anyone else. Take your time and think about it!)

[quote]And I especially feel an enormous amount of respect for people with that kind of courage and love. [/quote]
So what’s your point??

[quote]Good for me, you'd probably say. And who cares? Well, I care! Cause the fact remains that you guys leave your fat little wives, fly over for a week, fuck your little brains and dicks out, and go back to those fat little wives without even a consideration of the darlings, you leave behind - the "blokes" you leave behind. [/quote]

Dorothy, Dorothy again with the narrow minded stereotypical insults, I will try again very slowly as you seem to have difficulty reading and understanding (Try reading it out loud it might help!) most of us don’t have wives, many of us live in Asia. (I know amazing you’re not the only one out here!!) and based on your rantings I suspect most of us have a higher IQ, oh and as an FYI I’m rather well hung!

[quote]Do continue your trade, but NEVER rest in peace that your materialistic approach has no consequences. They appear such a gay bunch when you pick them up in Kings Castle III and what ever the names of the bars. But they're not happy in the morning... [/quote]

Dorothy at last! Eureka! you finally seem to at least have gotten to the nub you’ve been worrying over since you started posting!!!! You don’t like the idea of P4P, so why the hell are you posting here it’s not an agony aunt column out to save LB’s it’s here to discuss LB’s and most often in the P4P environment and the bar scenes they frequent. Of course your trying to save all us sinners from our debauchery, word to the wise this is not the place or the environment and most of us don’t want to be saved.

[quote]These girls are girls as much as any other girls. And now I'm returning to my initial point which noone has seemed to bother about. [/quote]
You didn’t have a point other than trying to preach some moral standard to the rest of us by trying to camouflage it by comparing apples to oranges. Sorry Dorothy![/quote]

Wouw... take it easy, mrs. Doubtfire! You may vehemently disagree to my points (obviously, you seem to do - though actually I think not), but this is a demoCRAZY, right?

I DON'T object to p4p, but I like to point out that there is another reality than that as well.

What I DO object to is the "truths" that are sometimes presented here on this good forum that it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a fair and square relationship with a trans*woman who happens to have a current or past history as a socalled bar-girl. I've had a few, and as I said, none took me for a bad ride. And I believe in the name of fairness, that that is a truth as well.

You must also understand where I come from... for the last four years I've had almost only trans*girlfriends and most of my friends (also non-sexual) are transsexuals. I live daily with the actualities and pains and facts of trans*life in a basicly hetero-world that has very little sympathy for such a "freaky" thing as transsexuality. And 99% knows absolutely nothing about these things - still they like to make their voices heard (s the poster above, for example).

I take this very personally because I've lived among transsexuals for quite a few years and because I've learned to truly respect it not just as a kinky fetish but as a very real and often painful reality for people that I hold dear to me.

Maybe you're right. Maybe this is absolutely the wrong forum to bring up such things of substance. And maybe not, because the fact is that when every one of you leave her in the morning after a good fuck and the payment and goes back to your lives, then she is STILL here left with her frustrations in a reality where suicidal rates for example are so much higher among transsexuals than among other groups.

mrs. Doubtfire, I've probably been MUCH worse than any of you guys here... because I made them BELIEVE... I made them believe in me, and the fact was that I was butterflying as much as you guys but I had the indecency to make her believe in me.

I have caused pain - and now I'm feeling that pain back very deservedly.

I don't judge you at all. But I do challenge you.

Hopefully this has made you think just a wee bit.

Thanks for your replies, I actually like you!

H

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 11:13 PM

I also understand that you have this twisted view of what an LB really is. I understand that LBs themselves would consider themselves to be women, but when it comes down to it, they have XY chromosomes, no plastic surgery or medical procedure can change that, so technically these "ladies" of whom you speak, are in fact MEN, and that is absolute truth.


I always enjoy TRULY well-written and completely idiotic attempts to make sense.

Baby, you're a jerk, and you don't have a clue about what you write, so please, spare yourself the humiliation.

Study the subject b4 you express your views... and do give your mother my regards.

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 11:25 PM

so you're telling me that women can have XY chromosmes. huh?
i'm sure what i had said is a known fact.

what research is to be done, bro?
Have you figured something out that the world in oblivious to?
seriously you should get that shit published QUICK!
Perhaps you will win a nobel prize?
you arrogant prick.

c'mon bro, use a little common sense.
a man can dress all pretty, and take as many hormone pills as he wants, but at the end of the day, that man is still a MAN, just a very feminine man(with or without a penis).
I understand what u say about respect, i would never refer to one as a man to their face, nor on this forum unless it was technically speaking.

for example if some one somewhere figured out how to make oranges taste and look like steak, it still doesnt change the fact that its an orange. Im sorry im horrible with metaphors.

again i thank you for telling me about this forum, for that i respect you.




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