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#109 rxpharm

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 09:36 PM

thinking of doing a wee TR for my upcomming trip, the camera i have is fuji finepix f30 6.3 mega pixels, was just wandring if this camera will do as i do not want the pics that i take to come up looking shitty on the forum.
was asking as i have had this camera for about 18months, and used it once :oops:
also i do not have a bloody clue about cameras


This is a good camera, one of the best point and shoot for low light photos. However, it will only work as well as the person behind the lens knows how to handle it. You MUST get experience using it or the photos will not turn out good. Read the manual and become familiar with the camera, the best way to hold it and adjust for various conditions. One very important factor is to know how well the flash works, know the range, and the various adjustments you can make for it. Like most things in life, the results will depend on how much work you put into it.

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 11:01 PM

thanks for that, and i will read the manual, glad to know that it is a half decent camera

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 01:57 AM

i just got a sony t700- it looks so fucking cool i had to have it and its nearly as small as my ancient casio excilim. get on ebay and get this one, its cool. ps does anyone know how to work it? :P

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 04:07 AM

I'm considering buying a reasonable dSLR camera this summer and wondered what you knowledgable photographers think would be a good first dSLR for a keen photographic numpty like me. Must be user friendly and not overly complicated :)

I plan to spend around £350, maybe a little more. I have been looking closely at the Nikon D40X and most of the reviews are very positive and it's quite compact for a dSLR which I think is good. I've seen it listed at around the £300 mark, plus a few extras.

I've a little pocket Sony T10 already but I want something better for those special occasions :)

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 05:38 AM

dixon, any of the major brands, Canon, Nikon and Sony are worthwhile considerations.

Sony is introducing some updated models this year, so the current bunch, Sony Alpha A200, A300 and A350 should be available at good prices as the new models roll in.

There are a few advantages with Sony - one is that it has in body lens stabilization. This means that any lens you put on the camera will have the benefit of super steady shake. For Canon and Nikon you have to buy special lenses for that. In addition The alpha cameras can work with any older Minolta autofocus lenses. This allows for more flexibility to build up an excellent lens collection without breaking the bank. It has been reported that the Sony camera user interface is more intuitive. Common functions do not require going deep into the camera menu to make changes.

Also don't fall into the more megapixels is better trap, especially for the dSLRs. The Sony alpha A200 and A300 are 10 megapixels, while the A350 is 14 megapixels.

A very important thing is to go and handle the camera before buying - and I also would suggest trying out the menu to see how you like changing settings.

Be careful with the some models of the Nikons and Canons are not compatible with their older autofocus lenses.

Do your research as a dSLR investment is into a system that will last years. Another consideration is whether or not you need to get a bigger hard drive for your computer or possibly upgrade the whole thing if it is older and has a difficult time running one of the the digital editing programs like photoshop.

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 12:25 PM

Thanks RX, you are someone I was very much hoping would comment and already you've got me thinking, which is good :)

Sony's alpha range certainly seem well praised and with the new a230 and a330 models soon to be announced gives reason to pause again for thought and perhaps to reconsider how much I'm prepared to spend. The problem with technology is that you can find yourself constantly waiting for the next best thing :)

Right now I'm reading lots of reviews and trying to whittle down my focus to just a few models which I will then set against each other, because as you so rightly say you are buying into a system.

One of the Sony alphas will definately be a contender due to in-body stabilisation plus the tiltable viewing screens, of which the D40X has neither feature. But the Nikon D40X is a Nikon which rightly or wrongly I consider a major plus, plus it has a more compact body.

I appreciate your input very much Rx as I know you are a keen photographer. I also hope DutchCowboy offers comment too as you two guys come across as being a few of the more serious and seasoned photographers here on the forum 8)

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 11:27 PM

I can picture you , dc, 3 am, beach rd, in swimming trunks and a dslr around your neck, looking for some copyhairs to shoot :D

Thanks for the review , rxpharm, it´s time for me to upgrade my Sony Ericsson k800i cameraphone. I still love it but the pics aren´t the best anymore. I think the sony alpha seems best for my needs.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 12:32 AM

I can picture you , dc, 3 am, beach rd, in swimming trunks and a dslr around your neck, looking for some copyhairs to shoot :D

Exactly right there sev7en. As we all know, good operation under low-light conditions is vital in our field of work and the lighting inside the rooms at the PS Hotel is low on candle-power :lol:

Also, those tiltable screens on the Sonys would be a godsend for upskirt pics :mrgreen:

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 05:55 AM

Evening DC, soz for late reply, just picked up on this post.

As I like your ‘unconvential’ trains of thought, I decided to write up a proper reply for once. Lol.

Why do you want to buy a dSLR?

For the available budget, I could easily advice you to consider a bridge like one of the CANON PowerShot SX series or NIKON Coolpix P series, or even the Canon PowerShot G10 will all get you great still images. And they give you good versatility and reasonable image quality (read: good for 1024pix web images). More: http://www.pixmania..../criteresn.html

Again, why do you want to buy a dSLR?

But it looks like you have your mind set on a dSLR. One of the first pieces of advice I got from pro-photographer friend when I first started shooting (mind you only a year+ ago!) is to buy entry-level body and invest a little in a proper lens. Lens discussion should be separate post, do you want zoom or fixed focal, do you want macro, what aperture, etcetera. But I strongly suggest considering this in budgeting for a starter set up. Go for a body and buy a seperate lens. Invest equal in lens.

I can go ahead and reiterate what can be found online in terms of advising on buying a proper entry-level body + lens, but I’d prefer to refer you to http://www.dpreview....g_guide_01.htm. This will explain you all you need to know for making decision , and choices, when buying a dSLR. Ultimately it will be up to you which one to get considering the usage you foresee.

Ofc I would advise you the 1000D or 500D as entry-level dLSR: http://www.dpreview....on_eos1000d.asp , http://www.dpreview....on_eos500d.asp. But then I am Canon.

Go here for review Sony and Nikon: http://www.dpreview....iews/specs.asp. You’ll notice very little difference between the entry-levels of Canon, Sony and Nikon apart from censor and processor.

Don’t worry about pixels, unless youre planning of creating poster size pictures.

If you want to stabilize anything, get an image stabilizer on the lens, not the body. Come one.

Depending on if you choose to shoot jpeg or raw, software that comes with the camera will allow you to do basic editing. If you're leaning more towards digital editing then get lightroom or capture one, if you want to become a digital artist get photoshop :)

Dont worry about UI (user interface), they are all pretty much idiot proof these days. If your a bit tech-savy you'll be fine. Just read the manual.

Don’t stair blindly on having a flip screen neither, you want to shoot optical straight away. Absolutely no use in getting a dSLR and handling it like a compact camera. Again, if you are really serious about a flip screen consider a bridge.

Right, that is the machine. The machine will only do what you tell it to do. Nothing more, nothing less. Just getting a dSLR won’t get you v.far IMHO. Two things I was adviced when I started.

Start shooting AV or M straight away and learn to balance shutterspeed, aperture and ISO in combination with available light, either true light or flash. Get an external Flash too straight away, even in daylight you will want to use it for portraits. Now don’t go run to the nearest photo academy to get an expensive course, visit http://morguefile.com/docs/Classroom, that is where the real magic happens.

Re. composition and capturing the right moment and pose, I can’t advise, that is the fun bit (read: your creativity). You either have it , or you don't. I am sure you do. I do look v.much at some of my favorite photographers and see how they compose their shots, what their styles are and try to mix that with my own ideas.

Hope this helps ...

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:57 PM

DC , you ready to shoot? LOL

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 12:59 AM

Hey Dutch thank you so much for your input, I appreciate it very much indeed :D

Now... having spent at least 50% of today at work on the computer reading up on dSLRs and their associated 'extras' and taking numerous notes, in addition to several hours spent last night also reading up since I first read your's and Rx's posts I have closed in on a model which has begun to grow on me very much.

Luckily there is a quality camera shop 3 mins walk from where I work so I got to handle this particular model today and spent time discussing it with the guys behind the counter too. It is the model up from the Nikon D40X, which I previously liked alot, the Nikon D60. It is so light and compact in size and has all those features of the D40X which I liked so much.

My budget has now increased to around £500 having developed the 'hots' for the D60, potentially with additional zoom lens and extras.

I am very keen on this model and have a feeling it will become the dSLR I finally buy, but I'm in no rush to make the purchase as I want to get a 'bundle' of items at the same time, if possible, which will include an additional zoom lens. It is this element I am still determining which to go for and how far I may be prepared to stretch the budget, if necassary.

Despite the Sony dSLRs being a consideration and also my first target in terms of online investigation, it soon became clear to me that my ultimate purchase would be either a Canon (perhaps the D450) or a Nikon.

I want this purchase to last me for many years and as I will only ever reach amateur status I think this budget of around £500 (no more than £600) will give me what I need, including a few extras such as 8MB SD card, SB-400 external flash (a tip from you Dutch) and a carry bag.

Of course, one of the most important and yet to be decided choices is that of the lens(es), the Nikon D60 comes with a 18-55mm VR lens as standard (although the body can be purchased without it).

I'm considering whether to have the 18-55mm plus an additional zoom lens, maybe the 55-200VR zoom lens or just buy the body plus perhaps the 18-135VR zoom lens to start with.

Major savings can be made by buying everything at one time as opposed to buying another zoom lens in the future. As they say, the poor man always pays more.

Again, thanks to you and Rx for all your input.

That is an excellent image above and I love the classes on http://morguefile.com/ 8)

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 02:05 AM

good choice!

- 8GB i presume you mean, lol (instead of 8MB) - a .raw file will be ~20-25MB. (you need the raw file to properly process digitally - look at it like a dark room, hence the term light room, :shock: , lol). even if your shooting jpeg M or L you'll still want to go for a 4GB card, they're not too expensive, and better to stock up if you plan to do lots of shooting. i'd advice at first instance just shoot jpeg, get 2x4GB (one for some touristy shots, one for some more naughty captures, lol), and don't bother about any post-production work (you need to learn to shoot proper pictures first).
- Buy the body alone, the kit lenses on these entry-levels are , well, unpack and throw those away. so much in your photo's will be determined by the lens.

what are you looking for in the lens? ill do have a look at a good zoom lens tonight and come back to you.




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