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#61 dixon cox

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 02:58 AM

She was pretty drunk when she showed up at my hotel, but the next morning, I asked her again about why she came over and it had to do with being mad at her room mates.

 

I think that's fine when staying in a hotel on a fairly short-term basis, similar has happened to me too in the past.

 

But occasionally, in the morning, you have to be firm and stick to your guns, they're still hoping that they may get a gratuity, despite the fact it was you who did the favour for them.

 

Once in long-term accommodation you need to become very choosy about who knows where you live.

 

 

Whenever I see this post title in the forum list I keep reading it as "Becoming an Expert" :mrgreen:


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Posted 20 December 2013 - 05:47 AM

 
Once in long-term accommodation you need to become very choosy about who knows where you live.
 

I can see how that could turn into a disaster or at the very least a major pain in the ass quickly. Heck, I've had an American woman turn stalker on me before.

I can only imagine how bad it could get having a bar girl or a LB turn stalker, especially with that gossip and informant network they have.

Do you have any good stories about LB stalking episodes?

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 06:25 AM

Do you have any good stories about LB stalking episodes?

 

All that springs to mind right now is the fact that after every 90 days I leave Thailand and go to Cambodia for a month.

 

So far over the last 18 months this procedure has severed umbilical cords with two rather clingy hangers-on on two separate departures. Both nice girls, but I'd never be the future they're after, neither they mine. So it acts not only as a visa run, but also a convenient way to get me out of a potential situation, if the need arises.

 

I've always been totally useless and wimped-out when it comes to ending relationships in the past, I've usually resorted to being an asshole so they leave me. Running away and lying low for 30 days suits me just fine :mrgreen:


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Posted 20 December 2013 - 07:17 AM

I've always been totally useless and wimped-out when it comes to ending relationships in the past, I've usually resorted to being an asshole so they leave me. Running away and lying low for 30 days suits me just fine :mrgreen:

That is one thing that I do have the knack for, ending relationships. Actually, the trick is not wading into a relationship too far to begin with.

Although I tend to be kind and gentle with with any companion, it has never been an issue for me to break things off without feeling guilt.

It is when they don't accept no for an answer, that is when disappearing for a month might come in handy.


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Posted 20 December 2013 - 12:25 PM

You are right Spyder Rocket, for me the key to ending relationships (in Thailand at least), is to not start them. I learned that one some time ago.

 

It's almost pointless (and painless), getting in too deep IMHO. It's all too easy getting loved up with the girl/ladyboy of the moment, and then start making promises deep down you know you can't keep (which will come back to haunt you at a later date). If I really enjoy a ladyboy's company I'll spend a lot of time with her, I'll be very warm with her and I'll do what I can to make her happy, but I'll avoid 'relationship talk', and if I see her getting too comfortable I'll make it clear we are not in a relationship, but if we don't mess things up we can remain friends and spend more time together. 

 

Relationships in Thailand (or within the P4P at least), are a simple exchange. They want something (usually money), and you want something (usually sex and/or companionship), as long as you keep it simple and pay your dues you should be OK. Talking about love or a future together complicates things and creates a contract in their head (with penalties if broken).

 

For me, learning how to deal with this, and spending a lot of time with pretty locals without it becoming a relationship, was a key part of surviving as an expat.


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Posted 20 December 2013 - 05:39 PM

Actually, the trick is not wading into a relationship too far to begin with.

 
Absolutely. My reference to me being an asshole was back in my farang relationship days, that was a long time ago now, decades in fact. I wasn't a nasty asshole, just a relationship-lazy asshole.
 
As Moo Yung alluded to, the deeper you get into a relationship the deeper the hole you need to climb out of becomes. I'm currently single, therefor I boast a 100% failure rate regarding relationships over my half-century so far :mrgreen:
 
The word 'commitment' gives me the willies, at least for now, but that's just me. Never say never.
 
Whether I wanted a relationship or not my current budget would not particularly like it. It almost always has the final say in everything I do.
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Posted 22 December 2013 - 04:53 PM

Spyder Rocket work in China is very easy i have been here for 10 years teaching, i work 14 weeks in the spring and 14 weeks in the fall, for about 10 hours a week.  If you work in a university the school does all the visa things, You never have to pay for sex,   all you have to do is just stay away from woman that want to marry a country, the woman i meet know i want to stay here so the money hungry ones have no interest.  there are enough people who speak English here so the language is not a problem,  the girl students are very friendly,  I was with one for 4 years  The school gives you a house to live in.  Thailand is very near and the price to fly there is very cheap.  To me Thailand is just a third word country but they do have ladyboys., china is a world on to its self.   I have been to Thailand 4 times the last time in October, and i didn't care for it, i just went to Nana once and got Cindy from cascades, ( who was very good and does every thing) the rest of the girls in cascades didn't do any thing for me, but now i teach 18 and 19 year old girls ( English majors). 
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Posted 22 December 2013 - 11:47 PM

@mrfeizhu

China is truly amazing and I have considered working there; actually, I intend on getting a TESOL certificate before I leave the USA. Teaching English isn't my first choice for work, but it would be a good backup plan.

I'd prefer not to work at all, at least for a year or two. I think Thailand is a better choice for not working.

From the tone of your post, one could get the impression that you are banging your students. If so, you are playing with fire.

Be careful! ;)

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Posted 25 December 2013 - 09:28 AM

your all so very wanted, so need'd, so revered, luv is after all 'taking it away' so send them off with love it works for me.

 

I like mrfiezhu's points, Thailand is a third world, and it your not some 20 something heathen it really aint got shit but lb's anymore to offer, it isn't cheap, is overcrowed and sex is cheap everywhere today.

 

It seems boom has made his way back on to the forum and is continuing to spew his nonsense in the threads. I bet if the mods verified the IP it would match up to boomdraws. Only time before you are shown the door......again. -Swedeman007


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Posted 30 December 2013 - 02:19 PM

Thanks for all the effort guys. Great thread!!! I enjoy reading about this topic immensely.
Im probably 9-10 yrs away from making the move, all things going to plan.

Often wonder if purchasing a condo is worth the effort. Nothing fancy, just something in the 2mil baht range in Pattaya.

I know rents are cheap but the comfort of having a place to keep everything and having a few of my own creature comforts without having to find storage is rather appealing.

Anyone gone down that path?

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 10:06 PM

Azza, I think the important thing is to try and not get bogged-down in the smaller stuff. I'm 18 months in and nothing here is set in stone for me at all. I know we all like to plan things as best as possible but the focus should be on dealing with organising things at home, not Thailand. Thailand is the easy part.

 

The important things to get sorted are back home in order to release yourself from your western life and ensure you have sufficient income to support yourself after the move, either with or without working, that choice is yours. Also a will, trimming unnecessary bank accounts, credit cards, dealing with taxes, standing orders and debts, if any. Also ensuring bank cards are up to date for maximum life and daily withdrawal limits set to maximum, for emergencies etc..

 

What happens in Thailand can all be dealt with once you're there without committing yourself to anything too much in any direction, at least during the initial months. I would always recommend 100% to rent somewhere for several months at least to see how it feels. See what the area and it's conveniences and inconveniences are like and whether they are manageable. You will have so much time on your hands to wander off checking out other areas or accommodations should your short-term rental not be what you want. Freedom without commitment, at least in the early stages.

 

I understand what you mean about creature comforts, but realistically you'd have nothing more than a manageable amount to pile into the back of a hired songtaew should you choose to move. Ultimately further down the line you may choose to buy a condo or suchlike, that decision is yours, but you will have made a much more considered decision if you'd already spent months on the ground first.


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Posted 31 December 2013 - 01:31 AM

I can't see what the advantage to purchasing a condo would be. I certainly don't think it would be a good financial investment and in my mind all it would do is chain you to a particular location.

I would imagine that you could get a higher quality dwelling if you purchased a condo and then personalize it to your tastes. Other than that, I'm having a hard time seeing the advantage of purchasing over leasing.

Admittedly, I've never researched the matter and I have no idea about what the usual monthly condo fees would be. Of course, they would vary at each development. I'm guessing that the nicer the building is the higher the monthly fees will be.

As Dixon said, it would be wise to spend a few months in country getting smart on this and not rush into buying.

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I guess some other advantages would be what Azza mentioned, the creature comforts.

If you wanted to have a rice cooker or a blender, you could just get one and not worry about tossing it or lugging it around with you. High end electronics, like TVs or sound systems would be another.

Honestly, the most daunting aspect of preparing for the move is getting rid of all my possessions. I envision myself being a little shy of accumulating a bunch of stuff again after I get rid of it all.

I am reminded of a quote from the movie, Fight Club, "The things you own, end up owning you."

I do feel a bit like Edward Norton in that movie when he blew up his condo and all his Ikea furniture. Except, I'm selling and giving away my stuff.




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