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[Spyder Rocket]

No relationship. I had taken her ST once and once LT. Many seem to protect their turf, as it were. I would not choose to pick another from the same bar again. It'll be one and then somewhere else.

Okay, that sounds more like minor bar drama cattiness, I'm guessing the death threat was a joke, right? I've been lucky so far avoiding drama, but I think sometimes that sort of thing will find you no matter what you do.

Once at Hi Boss, I had a rather aggressive LB try to steal me from another LB, saying that I was her customer. I'd never even seen either one of them before. I bought a round of lady drinks and thought it smoothed things over and then went up to the ST rooms with the first LB.

The crazy one came up stairs after we finished showering and said she wanted to "watch." I was freaking out a little, but just went along with it and let her join us. It was a pretty good session in the end, but make no mistake, I was hustled into paying two bar fines.

[thailover57]

Yeah, turned out it was just drama, but sometimes there's the realization that this is Thailand and crap happens all too frequently.

[Spyder Rocket]

Yeah, turned out it was just drama, but sometimes there's the realization that this is Thailand and crap happens all too frequently.

Would you agree that your mongering has become less frequent, but more enjoyable, the longer you have been an expat?

Or would you say that mongering has lost its' appeal the longer you've been living there full-time?

I could see myself totally losing interest in it at some point, but I think it might take awhile to get it out of my system.

[dixon cox]

Would you agree that your mongering has become less frequent, but more enjoyable, the longer you have been an expat?

Or would you say that mongering has lost its' appeal the longer you've been living there full-time?

 

The urge to seek out paid for encounters has, for me, reduced over time, whereas the ability to resist temptation has increased. Perhaps it's age related (mojo) or just over-exposure to the scene. I'd guess it's mostly the latter, but at least a little of the former. Which is why I often head to Soi 6 out of hours when I have an itch to scratch. Those outings provide increased excitement rather than shooting suicidal fish in a small barrel, as in a bar setting. I do enjoy the whole soap-opera of the bars and fora too.

 

I find bars enjoyable from time to time so long as friends and acquaintances are in attendance, the ladyboys are a distant second in terms of the appeal because whatever they do they will not tempt me. It's often what they do not do which does, if at all. Having said that I only socialise in bars or venues with ladyboys in them and I still enjoy ladyboy's company (never GGs), but for different reasons than years ago.

 

The thrill of Thailand as a sex tourist destination and the activities associated with that were on the wain long before I moved here. I enjoy Thailand for other reasons and have done for some time, it is certainly not about sex, but that was perhaps the initial draw which ensured I came back again and again. But having it on the doorstep is convenient.

 

Now installed I enjoy the peace and quiet (generally) of where I reside and the conveniences nearby. I don't require much to be content and I like my own company very much. I'm only 5 minutes from Buakhao so if excitement's what I need or friends are in town then it's easily available. 

[Spyder Rocket]

The urge to seek out paid for encounters has, for me, reduced over time, whereas the ability to resist temptation has increased. Perhaps it's age related (mojo) or just over-exposure to the scene. I'd guess it's mostly the latter, but at least a little of the former. Which is why I often head to Soi 6 out of hours when I have an itch to scratch. Those outings provide increased excitement rather than shooting suicidal fish in a small barrel, as in a bar setting. I do enjoy the whole soap-opera of the bars and fora too.

Pattaya's Soi 6 in the day time does have a significantly different feel to it. I am partly reminded of the the American Wild West of the 1870s; it's hot, there is a feel of danger in the air, and at any moment, someone might appear in a storefront doorway who will fuck the hell out of you.

However, a more accurate analogy could be, Pleasure Island, from the 1940 Disney film, Pinocchio. Yes, a place where boys, both young and old, who are unencumbered by the rules of society, are free to drink, suck, and fuck themselves into a ridiculous form of existence and become a cartoon donkeys.

Sorry, that was my homage to the writing style of Yung Havoc.

The thrill of Thailand as a sex tourist destination and the activities associated with that were on the wain long before I moved here. I enjoy Thailand for other reasons and have done for some time, it is certainly not about sex, but that was perhaps the initial draw which ensured I came back again and again. But having it on the doorstep is convenient.

My primary draw to live in Thailand is the reduced cost of living. As you put it earlier in this thread, "It is not, living the dream, it is just living, with a few extra benefits."

I see the carnal delights of Thailand as somewhat of a threat to me living a cheap and peaceful life. I want to pursue a couple of creative endeavors while I'm living in Thailand.

I'd prefer not to let myself turn into a donkey, but I think I'll need to get some of those carnal urges out of my system.

It is all about balance, and so, I am curious about how my fellow expats attain it or fail to attain it.

[thailover57]

I agree with DC's comments. Sorry for rambling now. Yeah, mongering is not the top of the list now. When I was contemplating my move, it was right up there. And since i moved 2-1/2 years ago, not so much. The demographics have also changed. It seems to me that the number of obnoxious visitors has increased by an exorbitant amount. No identifying country of origin - many. I look at the weather for New England and realize what a good choice I made. And as for the language, it still gives me problems, but I try. And when I do, I am usually rewarded by a Thai person saying, oh, geng MAK MAK , meaning I speak Thai well. Not even, but thanks for the compliment. As a creature of habit, when I visit the local Family Mart, they know my preferences (Marlboro red box) and sometimes Finlandia. Local restaurant, sweet and sour chicken, the cook and waitresses always smile and wave whether I'm stopping in or walking by. Sometimes they ask where I'm going (bai nai - my phonetics - bigh nigh).

[Spyder Rocket]

I still enjoy ladyboy's company (never GGs), but for different reasons than years ago.

That is a curiously interesting comment; it didn't register with me on the first read of your post, but it rang out the second time I read it.

Could you elaborate on how spending time with LBs is different for you now as opposed to the past?

If that is too much of a personal question, I understand, but I think it would be interesting to hear how your opinions and motivations have evolved over time.

Cheers

[Spyder Rocket]

The demographics have also changed. It seems to me that the number of obnoxious visitors has increased by an exorbitant amount. No identifying country of origin - many.

I wonder if it is a shift in the demographics or if it was your perceptions that have changed?

Perhaps you had a greater tolerance for obnoxious behavior a couple of years ago?

[dixon cox]

I still enjoy ladyboy's company (never GGs), but for different reasons than years ago.

That is a curiously interesting comment ..

Could you elaborate on how spending time with LBs is different for you now as opposed to the past?

 

I had to re-read the paragraph again on my own post to put that back into context, but I guess it still means the same thing in isolation.

 

Over the years I've had a few long-term relationships with ladyboys, one of 9 months, one of 4 years and one of 2 years, where 99% of the time I stayed exclusively with only that one ladyboy over that period. Naturally I didn't live in Thailand at the time so it was during holidays and extended trips, which ranged roughly, in total, from one to six months over the course of any given year since around 2006.

 

I liked the single-girl mode at the time as I was more adventurous back then in terms of travelling and enjoyed seeing and doing other things over and above just living, as I'm doing now. Those things (apart from just living) are always better done with a companion, translator, someone to share them with and also a bed-partner. Now I'm doing the 'just living' part the thought of having to entertain someone else while I'm trying to happily do nothing would simply irk me, I believe. So currently I have no desire to rock my little boat, so to speak, and happily live as a singleton.

 

Also, another element to the statement quoted above is that my sexual needs and desires have fine-tuned over the years and my desire to 'fuck' has diminished considerably. Not only is the work and effort involved in fucking not equal to the pleasure attained, certainly compared to other activities of which the satisfaction levels are higher, after hundreds and hundreds of shags over the course of a lifetime it does become tedious, in my opinion. Maybe similar in the way that women wore-off which is why I elevated to ladyboys.

 

Perhaps easier or better described as fetish-focus. My fetishes also mean my temporary love interest does not need to endure being buggered and therefor, in my mind and probably hers, earns easier money. The majority are most often quite willing (if not persistent) to re-visit me again at rates which suit my budget well because in comparison to the majority of her other customers I am the proverbial piece of cake. A win win for both parties involved

[KendoUK]

I remember not so long hearing about the real expat veterans, who flick between 7/11 and Family Mart seeing if they can make a 1bt saving on bottles of water.

 

If I ever become one of those, please feel free to take me down the back of 6/1 and euthanise me.

 

Going back to page 3 of the thread about cheap condos, I had a layover in Soi 22 or 23 about a month back and the condo block was used by a lot of the notable Lao LB's in Bangkok, 3 to a room etc etc....

[Spyder Rocket]

 
I liked the single-girl mode at the time as I was more adventurous back then in terms of travelling and enjoyed seeing and doing other things over and above just living, as I'm doing now. Those things (apart from just living) are always better done with a companion, translator, someone to share them with and also a bed-partner. Now I'm doing the 'just living' part the thought of having to entertain someone else while I'm trying to happily do nothing would simply irk me, I believe. So currently I have no desire to rock my little boat, so to speak, and happily live as a singleton.
 
Also, another element to the statement quoted above is that my sexual needs and desires have fine-tuned over the years and my desire to 'fuck' has diminished considerably. Not only is the work and effort involved in fucking not equal to the pleasure attained, certainly compared to other activities of which the satisfaction levels are higher, after hundreds and hundreds of shags over the course of a lifetime it does become tedious, in my opinion. Maybe similar in the way that women wore-off which is why I elevated to ladyboys.
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Okay, I think I know where you are coming from; thanks for sharing that.

I can identify with elements of your post, especially the part about having to contend with another person's needs, wants, and desires after settling into a long-term relationship. I have already lived that aspect of life and I think the next decade will be dedicated to fulfilling my own needs, wants and desires.

Still, the need for intimacy is part of the human condition and we tend to seek that out in different ways.

[Spyder Rocket]

I remember not so long hearing about the real expat veterans, who flick between 7/11 and Family Mart seeing if they can make a 1bt saving on bottles of water.

If I ever become one of those, please feel free to take me down the back of 6/1 and euthanise me.

Okay, but if you want me to use a gun, you will have to pay me for the bullet. A copper jacketed round costs17 baht more than a regular lead hollow point, so you'll need to figure that out beforehand.

Going back to page 3 of the thread about cheap condos, I had a layover in Soi 22 or 23 about a month back and the condo block was used by a lot of the notable Lao LB's in Bangkok, 3 to a room etc etc....

I've benefitted from a GG's dislike of her shared apartment by having her call me after the bar closes and asked if I was alone. After telling her, that I didn't want to pay any bar fines or money to her, she say's, "I want to stay with you, you very nice and gentle."

She was pretty drunk when she showed up at my hotel, but the next morning, I asked her again about why she came over and it had to do with being mad at her room mates.

Then again, I've been to the apartment of a successful LB and she was living alone in a rather swanky pad that was outfitted with high-end electronics and every kind of gadget you'd ever need.

I didn't ask, but she obviously was not sending all her money to the family.