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#205 paultain

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Posted 08 October 2009 - 10:47 AM

thanks for the links again paul.
i agree, the couple secret filming should not have got the gear back.
they knew what they were doing, she was an "independant" reporter.
i think the volunteers are being shown in a good light, and has done them a huge favour.
although,
it still pisses me off when you see 12 ladyboys sitting around their table.
their crime- being a ladyboy.


There is a whole stink about that couple, it turns out they were making a documentary on the sex trade in Thailand, and should have got permission first from the Thai film board, which they didn't, as they wouldn't have gotten permission in the first place. The film board officially has to preview all material, before it leaves Thailand, which never happened even on this documentary, but they did get the permit. That is why they are kicking up about it. That guy Howard is well pissed off about it, and is writing about it on another forum.

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Posted 08 October 2009 - 11:37 AM

Here are the rules when filming such thing in Thailand, taken from the Bangkok Post on the 4th of October 2009 (A bit boring but just to give you the general idea)

Thailand is a regional hub for film production. While the industry has been weakened somewhat in recent years by the unstable political climate - Nicholas Cage famously fled with his family to Korea during production of Bangkok Dangerous when the September 2006 coup happened - Thailand is considered a desirable place to produce films because of the value, the variety of locales and the capable and affordable production crews.
The Thailand Film Office (TFO), under the Office of Tourism Development, has also done much to promote and facilitate foreign filmmaking in Thailand. The TFO monitors foreign productions fairly closely.

The organization’s website states that foreign filmmakers are required to hire a local coordinator who is officially registered with the TFO.

Local coordinators represent the filmmaker in obtaining necessary permits and "any matter arising both during and after the completion of shooting in Thailand".

In applying for a shooting permit, the local coordinator must submit a thorough account of the production which includes, among many other materials, translated-into-Thai copies of intentions, proposed sets, schedules, budgets, scripts and crew member lists. Plans can be amended, but changes must be cleared by the TFO.

Despite the volume of materials that must be submitted, the TFO approves things fairly quickly - a matter of days for advertisements, several weeks for feature productions. They screen most carefully for content that would dishonour the monarchy or the nation, or might threaten national security.
Beyond the vetting of productions, the TFO requires that a monitoring officer, at a price of 2,000 baht per day, be present during all filming. As explained on the TFO website: "Filming is not allowed, under any circumstances, without acknowledgement of the monitoring officer."

The TFO also mandates that local coordinators obtain any additional permits for shooting, such as those needed to film in parks or at historic sites. An agreement to honor these rules is signed by the local coordinator and the foreign producer.

Two weeks ago, the TFO announced plans to prosecute Black Sheep Productions, the local coordinator which produced Big Trouble in Thailand, a reality series chronicling Thai tourism scams for a British television channel.

A representative from the TFO explained the company had broken various film laws by sending film out of the country without proper screening and by tarnishing the reputation of Thailand.


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Posted 08 October 2009 - 12:00 PM

This is from Howard the police volunteer featured on the documentary

With regards to BTIT, I am in contact with the owner of Black Sheep Productions who did tell me that at first, after episode 1, she was convinced the Police were going to arrest her. Since then the heat has come off her and the Film Board are now prepared to view all 8 episodes before they decide to take any further action or not.

I think the main problem for the Film Board and Thai Film Companies who agree to represent foreign film makers is that the final edit of a production is normally done outside of Thailand and the Thai Company are simply frozen out as soon as the filming is completed, BTIT being a classic example of this.

I just heard today that the Thai Authorities have backed down a bit and have agreed to watch all 8 episodes before they take any further action, if at all. I think they are realizing that this show may benefit Thailand in the long term and will show the world that it is not afraid for them to see the REAL Thailand.

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Posted 08 October 2009 - 12:10 PM

This is from the owner of baby dolls, that was featured in episode 5, about the couple secretly filming inside.


“I haven't seen the episode as yet, but as far as I know, the people filming were caught (and their equipment confiscated) before they were able to get too much footage inside the bar.
Filming, and taking photo's, is banned to protect our customers as much to protect our bar and our staff.
It is in everyone's interest to catch these arseholes, so that genuine customers can continue to enjoy Pattaya's bars for many years to come.

If you are caught filming, taking snaps, or any other unacceptable behavior, you will be ejected and banned. In most cases, the 'offenders' leave quietly. However, should the customer decide that he will take exception, and put up a fight, and then he is on his own.

However, in principle, I am 100% against the 'pack mentality' and feel that it unwarranted. Thankfully most guys realize they have screwed up and leave quietly.”


“OK. I have now seen the footage, and would just like to clarify that the footage taken inside a bar (which they have interlaced with the Babydoll story) was not taken inside Babydolls.

I have spoken to Lee, and he has said that under no circumstances did he threaten them with violence, or tell them that the police would be beat them up.

I guess we shouldn't let facts get in the way of a good story though !!”

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Posted 08 October 2009 - 12:16 PM

Lets remember, this is the first ever reality TV show produced in Thailand for a foreign TV network. That is amazing in itself. Don't take it seriously and I wish that some would stop analyzing it so much (mostly on other chat forums). I know it is badly edited and repetitive. We have known that for 5 weeks already. Just watch it and have a chuckle....that’s all.

It is a show for 18-35 year old UK lads. Keep this in mind. They probably love it. In fact in the first two weeks it was their number 1 rated show (including repeat viewings).

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Posted 08 October 2009 - 01:01 PM

Interesting stuff Paul, thanks for keeping us abreast on this.

I always get a kick out of photos I see with a no photos sign in the background. I totally get why they do this, but i will still ask to get a photo, and sometimes they allow, sometimes not then I honour their wishes.
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Posted 09 October 2009 - 02:07 AM

JJ and the gun incident - The Real and uncut version

Just came across this on utube........... take a look at it, its very surprising...........



and this

http://www.youtube.c...u/1/DwLOpMP26MY

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 02:43 AM

The plot thickens

This was just posted by one of the film crew of the documentary
It seems a few of them who filmed it got sacked because of a dispute over the editing, and posted the true film on utube, then just joined a forum to say this……..


“London-based Vera Productions faked audio on JJ gun scene. Sound of Marines' reaction was from earlier argument ... not when he produced the gun.

As someone who is not and never has been involved in the editing process of BTIT I am unhappy about factual inaccuracy, distortion and attempts at fabrication - in the name of, I can only assume, sensationalism. There's been enough controversy, I think. But JJ deserves a fair trial Oct. 28 - especially as his charges arise out of Episode 1 of BTIT. The penalty for releasing the true and accurate footage - especially appertaining to the gun scene - is to be sued for breach of copyright. I wasn't aware of the sound 'edit' until after broadcast and I immediately moved to allude to the fact, in spite of the risk of legal action. I have never had any time for faking content for TV shows - not even for Bravo.”

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 03:13 AM

Govt cracks down on pirated goods

Writer: Bangkokpost.com
Published: 21/09/2009 at 08:57 PM


Buyers and users of pirated products will be fined 1,000 baht per case, while commercial building owners and landlords, as well as website owners, who turn a blind eye to sales of pirated goods will face a fine of as much as 300,000 baht under a new draft law aimed at clamping down on intellectual-property violations.

Deputy Commerce Minister Alongkorn Ponlaboot said the ministry will soon propose the amendments to the Trademark Act and Copyright Act for cabinet consideration and approval.

Under the draft legislation, users and processors of counterfeit goods including computer software, music and movies would be subject to a fine of not more than 1,000 baht, while commercial-building lessors, owners and landlords would face fines ranging from 30,000 baht to 300,000 baht.

The penalty would also cover website owners operating or providing e-commerce services for pirated goods.

The draft amendments are aimed at protecting intellectual property and promoting Thailand's development as a creative economy, said Mr Alongkorn.

The effort also aims to get Thailand off the US's special watch list.

Washington in May made a decision to keep Thailand on its special watch list of nations that have failed to crack down on copyright and patent violations.

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 03:32 AM

Very interesting footage Im alm ost on his side now a couple of those marines are pricks the rest seem cool but JJ didnt seem that bad in the true footage

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 02:10 AM

Here we go again Lads!

Monday 12th October 2009

Two Indian Tourists robbed by two transsexuals following sexual encounter.

Pattaya, October 12 [PATTAYA ONE NEWS] : In the early hours of Monday Morning, Police were called to the front of an apartment in Soi Doodee in Central Pattaya by two Indian Tourists, both aged 40 who explained to officers that they had been accosted by two transsexuals on Pattaya Second Road who invited the two men back to the apartment in Soi Doodee for some late night fun. The two men accepted the invitation and after some time, the two men left the apartment and noticed that their money had been taken from their trouser pockets. They walked back to the apartment but found it to be locked. Police also attempted to gain entry to the apartment without success. 50,000 Indian Rupees, 800 US Dollars and 2,000 Baht had been stolen. The two men were taken to Pattaya Police Station to file a report of the incident and Police are now searching for the two transsexuals based on descriptions of them, provided by the two Indian Tourists.

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 10:11 AM

Episode 6
Part 1
http://www.youtube.c...3/0/7T0TfJtIUi8

Part 2
http://www.youtube.c...3/1/3f1XSaqoTdo

Part 3
http://www.youtube.c...3/2/ePRhDiq4k5k

Part 4
http://www.youtube.c...3/3/29W8LwdZOfQ


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