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[dixon cox]

When all one person has to do is type one word to receive a whole paragraph of frustration from another person, is it any wonder why this thread continues?

I wouldn't be able to resist the temptation either

[stogie bear]

I also retract my previous insult against stogie, (heat of the moment comment)

No worries...

Send me a PM from 'over there!' next time you stop by.

[petesie]

This thread has a certain roller-coater aspect to it......whch is somehow appealling in an odd way....... ;-)

[lemarquisdesavoie]

Now all we need is someone to post as SusanBoyle, then later to retract it apologising for being 'tired and emotional'.

Any takers ?

[boarhog]

Definitely a worthwhile poll PP and your question of will it happen here was a fair one. The thread served its members very well as we found out from Kliome that LB69 has no plan to start charging it users. It was also refreshing to hear his take on TLF's lack of respect to its BM’s regarding this move by TLF:

“I don't think its the end of TLF, but they should show a bit more respect to the BM's who have put a lot of time an effort into the forum.

I hope they either give free access to those who have had their threads moved into the free area, move the threads back into the public area, or honour requests to delete them.

There may not be any legal obligation to do so, but there should be a little more respect and responsibility.

LB69 will continue to be a free forum..”

If we look at the actual numbers, which may be tainted by several factors including further discussion after a vote. They tell us that basically 75% wouldn’t pay if the forum began to charge. That’s including the No’s and the people going to another forum. That leaves a 25% of the membership that would pay with 40 % of them doing so if increased security. These are actual figures with Brits mistaken vote changed.

15% said they would pay no questions asked basically. Does that mean that 15% of all the members of LB69 would pay? No the lurkers, part time posters, 2nd usernames, inactive accounts would drag this number lower.
Note 58 votes at time of post

A huge issue spun off of this poll as we all know. Although it was brought up, it never became an us versus them issue. It was quite clearly a case where TLF admin/Stogie/Bumpa Stikka deceived membership before this transition and didn’t honor his word about deleting posts or threads. This became a flashpoint for those who invested time and effort in posting trip reports and threads.

We read some knowledgeable insight to site costs by Hoot and CL. We heard factual testimonials from several BM are who had been cut off from their contributions by Stogie. We read through false allegations as well as the Stogie spin on things. We won’t soon forget his bad publicity is good publicity strategy. They must have been rushing over to TLF when they heard about his dishonesty with the delete requests. We heard Stogie call some of us names instead of answer to a reasonable question. The LB69’s showed restraint in not lowering themselves to Stogies name calling. Except for the OP who eventually retracted it.

Although Stogie obviously spends a bit of time on this forum these days, he is quick to point out me being on their free section. I quite enjoy reading that free preview page that is censored to his liking. I guess anyone who speaks up there isn’t considered free publicity. Its strange the amount my name gets thrown around over there. Not just by Stogie either.

Some of his mob have painted this into an us versus them thing, calling our membership TLF’s rejects. They even acknowledge this thread saying its our longest running thread in the message boards history. Then there are the positive propaganda posts claiming their free section has more information than all the other forums put together. It makes one wonder how long that thread would have gone had not so many been silenced.

Yet Stogie is given the courtesy to come here post. Despite his abusive posts and name calling he is here, daily in fact. He even has the audacity to call for my head here on LB69 through that thread. After knocking Kliome for moderating for free, he claims LB69 doesn’t read his own site or I would be gone. Now why would Stogie want that if this is such good publicity?

I’m not sure if you’re indicting our administration or just me. I think its both in the context of everything that has transpired. Remember when you used to do it for free? Remember when you didn’t have to screw people to make a bit of coin? Now you have to rely on deceit, propaganda, bullying, and if they corner you on something you just call them names. I’m grateful we have a mod who is a fair straight shooter that does it for the love of the forum. It is much better having someone with passion than someone who would trample anyone for greed.

Now I'm going to go have some fun on this free forum and actually get paid in points for contributions.

[stogie bear]

I’m not sure if you’re indicting our administration or just me...

Take a wild guess, Sherlock!

Some of his mob have painted this into an us versus them thing, calling our membership TLF’s rejects.

More madness from the PM machine!

Kliome and I are long time friends and both forums work together to help each other.

Trying to create a division between them is clearly an attempt to divert attention from your own imaginative and hysterical rubbish.

But thanks for doing The Stogie Dance as predicted!

Damn, I can make you do anything I want... it's easy!

Can't wait for your next PM, lover...

[ovaltine]

how naive of me. I took stogie at his word that he was selling his interests in the forum. I even posted in his "goodbye" thread and wished him luck.

All the while it was just a money making ploy....should have known better...just another falang scam.

The guys that should really be screaming are the bar owners with the long threads of photos. Easy, Guess, Stringfellows, Labamba...their prospective clients are no longer seeing their efforts and they don't get to promote their businesses to the masses.

I don't think Pattaya business owners will be as diligent in the promotion department anymore.

Another thing...If stogie also has a hand in the ATS site...he has a lot of nerve to be asking guys to pay 30bucks a month when they haven't had model updates in years.

The ATS "preview" section is a joke ..."previewing" already posted photo spreads of girls taken 5 or more years ago.

[boarhog]

I’m not sure if you’re indicting our administration or just me...

Take a wild guess, Sherlock!

Like I said before you took it out of context, I think its both!

Some of his mob have painted this into an us versus them thing, calling our membership TLF’s rejects.

You denying this was said? Check your granny tranny's post. she was gloating about her visit to LB69.

More madness from the PM machine!

Your denying this? Come on dude, these are your peeps, the ones you are not silencing.

Kliome and I are long time friends and both forums work together to help each other
Trying to create a division between them is clearly an attempt to divert attention from your own imaginative and hysterical rubbish.

You have had many friiends who are no longer that. I'm not trying to do anything other than expose you for you dishonesty and decietfulness. This wasn't contrived or imagined as you well know. It is in fact you that is trying to divert attention away from the truth by saying it my imagination or hysteria created by me. Why do you want to abuse that friendship by your actions then?

But thanks for doing The Stogie Dance as predicted

Damn, I can make you do anything I want... it's easy!

Can't wait for your next PM, lover

That would be like me saying spin spin spin and then when you respond. I say thanks for doing the Stogie spin as predicted.
Damn, I can make you do anything I want...its easy!

You know what would be even easier. Deleting those threads and posts like you said you would. Instead of coming over here with your schoolboy phycology and schoolyard name calling. You obviously have more fun over here doing that then trying to con people over there out of their money.

[stogie bear]

Things happen fast on the internet and it looks like BoarHog HAS joined as a VIP member.

Welcome on board, BoarHog and thanks for joining up,

Stogie

[boarhog]

Things happen fast on the internet and it looks like BoarHog HAS joined as a VIP member.
Welcome on board, BoarHog and thanks for joining up,
Stogie

Bravo Stogie,
You stole my identity, password, avatar, changed my signature, and even altered PM's after reading through my Private messages. He has posted the altered ones to do the most damage. What power you wield, no wonder all those people kiss your ass for a free VIP. Out of fear more than loyalty or mostly to save $50.

So now you have my contributions, threads, photos, and my identity. Currently carrying on a conversation with himself. One character is Bumpa Stikka and the other is him under my identity.

Thats will impress any potential sign-ups to join. kind of join or else if they speak too loudly. Here you were telling us how good of publicity you were getting.
I always thought PM's were private, but other TLF's BM told me that you read them. Foolish, I was to doubt them. No wonder so many including some mods set up different chat areas. Note to TLF members, you have no privacy even for $50.

We now see the full extent of what your capable of. Keep up the good work of selling that site backed by your lies, deceit, and now this. Your in a class of no other.

This ought to stop anymore people from speaking the truth about you not deleting posts or threads. You must be so proud of yourself.

[stogie bear]

Are you saying that it isn't you? That someone else is posting in your name?

Come on, BoarHog. If it's not you then who else could it be?

Admit it, you love us...

Dance dance dance...