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[Starfish seeker]

Contemplating visiting the land of the smiles next year and possibly Vietnam with my 8 year old son.He is well travelled so I don't have any issues with that,and I know Thailand is a fast growing family holiday destination.
I am thinking of dropping down to Pattaya and visiting the lady boy gf during the visit.We discussed it during my recent visit and she is ok with it.We are always out and about at the beach,cinema,bowling places anyhow.And the bar scene is not a big draw.So from that angle I don't have any concerns.She is fun and likes kids etc.Would probably up grade to a suite at the usual South Patts hotel.
Any thoughts guys?Anybody done something similar?
Thanks in advance.

[Brit]

Not sure what the question is?

Is Pattaya a more family orientated venue - there is a drive for that yes - however there remains a substantial seedie side in the evenings.

Is it socially acceptable to introduce your son to your LB gf - my opinion is that it depends on the situation. It would be a similar answer if you asked about a gay or GG. I presume she is in the P4P scene and IMHO perhaps not desireable regardless of orientation. I dont assume to preach or lecture others on such a topic as i do not have children myself. I think i would only personallly introduce any partner of whom i wished to have permanent long term sustained relationship and off whom I 101% trusted.

[sev7en]

Bringing an 8 year old to pattaya? No way.

[petesie]

Not really a strange concept at all.............after all..........you're hardly going to be dragging him round the bars..............

There's so much for the youngster to see and do and of course you will enjoy this aspect of Patts as well...............

I took my 19 year old there in May..........he had a ball.............I put him through his Open Water Diving courses which he really enjoyed.........8 days of it.......so I got my night time activities and entertainment then.............

I introduced him to the LB bars which he took in his stride and oddly enough he is still speaking to me!

He did laugh when Kate insisted he call her Mama Kate........oo-er...!

[donnykey]

Pete there is a rather large difference between an 8 and 19 y.o.

Cheers DK

[petesie]

Thanks for that Bruce.............

I had noticed as I have one of them as well...............!

Plenty there in Patts to keep the youngster entertained........especially if you choose a resort style hotel with good pool facilities and a kids club............and of course they have baby sitting facilities..............

It will just have to be a different holiday for you..............

[donnykey]

Thanks for that Bruce.............

I had noticed as I have one of them as well...............!

Plenty there in Patts to keep the youngster entertained........especially if you choose a resort style hotel with good pool facilities and a kids club............and of course they have baby sitting facilities..............

It will just have to be a different holiday for you..............

Yes Peter I'll just have to manage somehow...Although sometimes I feel like I'm doing a bit of "baby sitting"

[RobiSLO]

8 year old child in luxurious hotel in South Pattaya together with fathers LB. Social service will listen to son's trip report carefully, but I don't think they will be very happy, quite contrary.
BR

[Starfish seeker]

Some interesting responses.Unfortunately us guys are subjected to both homophobia and inequality.
2 guys with a child is still taboo.Lesbians on the other hand do their stuff with the turkey baster and nobody bats an eyelid.
Inequality raises its ugly head through the courts and custodial arrangements.Ex partners would view a guy holidaying with his son and ladyboy as wonderful ammo.
So whilst it was considered the cons clearly out weigh the pros.I am all for pushing the boundaries but not prepared at this stage to risk putting my relationship with my son at risk.If I was the sole parent I would not hestitate.But when you have a vindictive x on your tail you watch your back.
So for the time being I keep the 2 lives separate.And maybe 19 is a good age for the openness to surface.Its just a pity that we live in a world where we are judged so harshly.

[manfredmann]

Being the father of an eight year old, I have also contemplated this topic...but having not yet been to LOS, for me it is pure speculation.

Having said that, let me offer my two cents. I think the key to it is what your (and the lb's) attitude is when around your son. As you undoubtedly know, children are incredibly perceptive! Therein; if either you or your lb friend are having any thoughts that would seem outside the norm, your son will surely perceive that something is not quite right. If you are both just acting as normal friends do, your son probably won't suspect anything unusual and will therefore feel comfortable - depending on how passable your lb is as a gg.

However, when he gets older and remembers 'those trips' with dad, he will surely know it wasn't as he thought and you will have to be prepared to deal with that.

Again, I speak only from experience with a child, not from experience in LOS. As to 'child welfare' or the vengeful X, those are different matters entirely.

The main point is; you can't really fool kids. Sooner or later, they figure it out. And if they suspect some secret but don't understand the truth, it messes with their heads.

[petesie]

Wise words indeed.........we also have to consider your timeline...........

If it is early days in the aftermath of the seperation then it is probably best left alone till the dust has settled and judicial and financial arrangements have been made............

If you brought an LB into the equation before then.........wow.........merry fuckin' hell would surely break loose.............

You also have to take into account your lads opinion........though only 8 he is far from stupid and he has to settle down to life without his father as he used to know it.