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#37 BKKtime

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 06:25 PM

Alright, seems to me that this is not the right platform for charity.

At least i have tryed it.

Just keep in mind that whatever a person might have done, nobody deserves to live under conditions like this.


Even though I agree with you that many in there are too harshly punished by our own western standards. I still strongly feel there are many more deserving of my attention and charity. Nobody deserves to suffer from hunger either, and most of these people suffering from hunger deserve it less than a drug exporter. (not saying they are all drug dealers, but we can be fairly confident that most of them are guilty of some sort of crime that is also convicted in the West)

#38 Stuart H

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 08:18 PM

I think Recoll's suggestion wasn't unreasonable.

I watched the documentary in full and it struck me that Thai justice doesnt always get the right man. The police are very corrupt (I've seen this at first hand!) Who is to say that the justice system isn't.

The focus has been on drug trafficking, but let's make this a bit closer to home. You pick up freelance LB who looks 18 and has an ID card. It turns out she is 17 and you're in the slammer looking at a long stretch. Wouldn't you look forward to a visitor once in a while?

#39 oifarang

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 03:08 PM

You pick up freelance LB who looks 18 and has an ID card. It turns out she is 17 and you're in the slammer looking at a long stretch. Wouldn't you look forward to a visitor once in a while?


If you are going to pay a prostitute for sex then whether it is in Thailand,the UK or wherever you are from it is down to you to ensure that you are have sex with someone of legal age.
In Thailand it is easy just ask to see their I.D. card.If you are caught having sex with someone under age it is your own fault.

#40 Stuart H

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 03:42 PM

In Thailand it is easy just ask to see their I.D. card.If you are caught having sex with someone under age it is your own fault.


I accept that, olfarang, but fake ID cards are cheap in Thailand - and you wouldn't get 99 years for it in the West. The point I make is that tourists are fair game for set-ups in Thailand and elsewhere. "Serves him right" - easy to say when you're not the one in a fix. See the recent story in Warnings thread re being set up by LB with the BIB!

http://www.lb-69.com...ou_cocaine.html

#41 Recoil111

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Posted 10 April 2008 - 07:39 PM

...and visit a foreign prisoner in Bangkok.

I think everybody heard storys about the Bang Kwang Prison in Bangkok (also called "Bangkok Hilton"). Life is very hard for prisoners, especially when you dont have relatives or friends who are able to support you.

Just spent 3 hours of your time when you stay the next time in Bangkok and visit a prisoner from your country. You can really make a big difference for him just with your visit (and optional some cigarettes from the prison shop).

Just contact your embassy in Thailand via email and ask if they can assist you in this matter (like i did with the german embassy) or visit the website of the "Foreign Prisoners Support Service" :

www.phaseloop.com/foreignprisoners/experiences.html

#42 BKKtime

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Posted 10 April 2008 - 08:19 PM

Why would you help a prisoner assuming he isnt innocent? I much rather spend my time helping families from Isaan;/

#43 laptop

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 05:27 AM

Currently you cannot visist the BKk Hilton unless you are a relative. They dont want anymore tourists visits. New director. :evil: :evil: However i was told if you say you are a cuz or uncle, etc they dont check.

I would certainly visit if possible next time i hit BKK. Give them some cash, goddies, books, etc. Yes they were stupid but do they deserve 50 years to life. i dont think so. Their life is over once they go in.
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#44 koykaeng

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 05:52 AM

To err is human, to forgive is divine.

Besides it's not uncommon to see an innocent man jailed.

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#45 Hoot

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 11:21 AM

Back when I was in school we had to visit a Maximum Security Penitentiary for a class - I was shocked to learn, everyman to the one said he was innocent. I can't believe the travesty :o

All the real criminals must be walking the streets. :D

Joking Aside-
I watched all the clips of the "Real Bangkok Hilton" that laptop posted. One of the guys didn't seem to keen on tourists visiting. I believe he said something like they call it banana day because they felt like a monkey in a cage. And quite frankly, I would be bent if you just came to see me in a cage, like I'm some tourist attraction.


 


#46 Eddie_016

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 03:29 PM

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#47 James Taylor

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 03:56 PM

I'd agree with BKKtime and Eddie. I have no doubt at all that the vast majority are guilty. If at all, why not visit a Thai prisoner without people who visit?

#48 batman4ever

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 05:21 PM

All the real criminals must be walking the streets. :D

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nope...they all sit in the parlament/congress..... :lol:

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