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[ClassOf89]

I swallowed 8 times with an Ex-bkk girl at Karon beach in '95 and I'm still here.

[peterg123]

A LB post has noted elsewhere on this site that approx 5% of the 300 filmstars someone used have tested HIV positive...this was not the LB film stars, but another producer commenting, and these are the hetero porn stars rates. He said he expected LB rates to be substantially higher.

Generally oral sex is considered very low risk, but gay men in SF have had rather more HIV cases, possibly from vigorous oral sex like throating. There are so many factors that go into it, like the state of your mouth and gums, if the person is having heavy or minimal HIV load, your general debility or not ( run down) etc etc that literally it's almost impossible to compute easily. The risk could vary from .005% to 5% but it's never zero.

True, stomach acid kills HIV. Any acid kills HIV which is extremely acid intolerant. One/two drop of lemon or lime juice added to your lubricant is useful. The real problem is your gum/mouth/lips condition and her emitter status ( viral load) as saliava itself coats HIV with a "polymer"has that makes it so slippery it has a hard time "targeting" a host.

Personally I would not recommend taking LBs spunk in the mouth. Pre-cum has much less viral concentration - additionally you can use Betadine Mouthwash ( pharmacy bought), a surgical kill-everything, including viruses that also does not taste bad and Betadine will not sting the sensitive uncircumcised cocks LBs have.

I would take a sip of Betadine before oral, not take cum in the mouth, and take another sip-rinse of Betnadine afterwards. Listerine may not kill viruses (it also stings uncircumcised menbranes) and Betadine is used in operating rooms, so I know who I trust. It also comes as an ointment.

A further word of warning. It is proved beyond any doubt, and endorsed just in Feb by the WHO, that the uncircumcised have up to 60% or more chance of catching HIV from a sexual encounter. This is not an old wives tale, it is science you can Google that only kooks are denying.

Most LBs are uncircumcised. If they have indulged in condomless anal or vaginal sex, they will likely be carriers at a far higher rate that if they were circumcised. LBs who specialise as bottoms will again be even more likely yet to carry HIV. Because if condomless anal/vaginal sex by a top with a foreskin is risky for the active partner, anal unprotected sex ( or torn condoms..and who knows anyones history of 2000 fucks?) by a passive partner, ok any kind, is utterly deadly with around a 10% + chance of HIV per act. Thats right, per act!

Everyone has to take their own chances. An uncircumcised john having unprotected anal sex with a bottom specialist LB, after which he drinks her cum or lets her shoot off in his mouth, is literally, if you read this post carefully, committing suicide.

On the other hand, a john with good oral and general health who takes a swish of Betadine mouthwash and then sucks his Thai LB without ejaculation, and maybe has another Betadine swish afterwards, has probably more chance of being run over by a car at Nana Plaza than catching HIV.

Do not brush teeth before or after oral sex until you have rinsed. If you cant get Betadine, Hydrogen Peroxide will do well as the HIV virus detests oxygen, which kills it.

Aditionally you should, if you shave the pubic area, use Betadine ointment/ Listerine type swabbing, before and after penetrative sex ( not on your shaft, it will eat the latex!) around your balls and pubic area. Razor rash and nicks will provide perfect entry for HIV contained in vaginal/anal secretions that can drip or drift down there.

I strongly suggest not to use the polyuretane type condoms and stay away from USA's Trojan brand Ultra Thins. The poly type condoms are rare, and supersensitive. I have found they seriously tear and leak. Let's not just think about ourselves, but the LB. Anal sex with POLY type condom will feel great but could easily tear and if you are a carrier, you might just infect one of these lovely gals. Durex latex condoms, especially Durex Extra Strong, are superb. I have never had a broken Durex at any time ever.

Please sticky this post if you like. I am not being gloomy, let's just be sensible. Face it, many LB fans are multiple partner and sex is one thing that makes people lie, so don't count on their sex history being safe, count on defensive fucking and look out for No 1!

[Asterix]

Alternatively could you please just post the link to to the relevant medical site.

I was not thinking of copying things off a medical site. I'm a med-student but I'm not up to date with the exact risks of oral sex - I was planning on doing a search for oral sex and various STD's in pubmed (a database that indexes all articles in medical journals)

If you want - then I can post my references aswell - that way you could check out the articles I've used as my sources.

Please let me know if you want me to list my references in the post.

[TravisPitt]

For me, that's the best part of giving an LB oral, receiving the ejaculation. However, I nearly always get my LB's late at night, after they've already had one or more partners, so they are often cummed out by then, and don't ejaculate. I have swallowed many times, am HIV tested regularly, no problems. I ALWAYS use a condom on anal. I agree with the other poster who recommended caution when brushing/flossing your teeth close to an LB encounter, you could create a micro tear in your gums that could serve as a port of entry for blood born disease. Generally when I swallow, I try to get their cocks near the base of my throat, this way it mostly bypasses my mouth altogether. As another poster said, the stomach acids will kill it after that...just my opinions, though, take them for what they're worth!

[robinhood]

so when giving and receiving oral you guys wear a condoms?

I tell ya if i Ever grow the balls to fly to thailand and go with a ladyboy im gonna have to spend months on the search engine of this site, Im scared sh****Ss of all the stuff you could catch and what i should do to protect myself,

Ive recently come to the desision that I want a LB, I want to fuck her and I want her to fuck me and I want to blow and swallow her load. but with oral I never thought of wearing a condom, of course for intercourse I did but i thought oral would be ok in regards STD'S .

well gotta grow the balls to do it first, lol