2016 : Are there so many virgin ladyboys ? Part 3 : Vietnam and Thailand
Before I go to Vietnam I had almost no information about the p4p scene in general and particularly about ladyboys. I found in a webpage that prostitution was still illegal then another one saying it was tolerated. Actually, till 2013 prostitutes could be caught and sent to a rehabilitation center, a prison with a different name, some kind of diversion centers. After 2013, prostitution skyrocketed in Saigon (Ho Chi Minh city). The district 1 was invaded by girls looking for customers. The police had to clean it by fining hookers who were not in the RLD as well as their pimps. The Vietnamese police arrested American mongers who had sex with under age prostitutes and expelled them to America where they were sentenced up to 5 years in prison. Another page said that pimps and police officers worked together to trap tourists. I would need to be careful.
I had read in a blog about ladyboys on a beach. Come what may, I was tired of Cambodia and felt like having rest in Vietnam.
When I reached the boarder, it reminded me my travels to Ukraine and Moldova. It was like going to the former USSR with a bus except that “Soviet” Officers were Asian. I had to pay 1 $ to control that I had no fever. When they called me and told me to go to small house 50 m away, I believed they refused my visa. The soldier/officer smiled at me and said “welcome to Vietnam”. Then I waited for the other passengers of the bus.
Somewhere in Vietnam XXX
I decided to remain discrete about the location of this meeting. I don’t really fear retaliation by the local police, but I don’t really want too many mongers to rush over there and see.
I stayed in XXX several days. I visited the city and didn’t see places such as bars, beaches neighborhoods to find either GGs or ladyboys. Never mind. I also tried to “play Wechat” but found no one in this location. I was tired since I had been stressed by mongering in Cambodia.
I used to come back late to my hotel though and I noticed the boss (a friendly Vietnamese guy in his early 30s) would wait for me to be back and make sure the entrance would be well locked up. I also checked the hotel regulation, art 8 that stipulated “no pimp prostitute is allowed in the premises”. It would be tough. So I just spent my time enjoying the beach, having rest and smiling at pretty waitresses in restaurants (some are stupid since they don’t understand English and are not able to copy an order correctly, others are nice and you feel like offering them a drink but these smiley girls are like those fishes that you can never catch and always return into the water). I rented a motorbike to visit the place and go to night markets. I also found a few karaoke bars as well as a massage place.
After checking the main night market, I decided to explore a neighborhood where I had been in the afternoon. I reached a boulevard that came across the countryside and … (I don’t want to give too many details). As I was about to ride across the boulevard, I saw a couple of food carts and behind one of them, a figure looking familiar: a ladyboy. I turned back and saw 3 femboys standing up as I arrived. One was petite, almost fat with fairly short hair and a heavy whore make up. She wore a short dress that was supposed to be sexy. The second was slim with black trousers and t-shirt and I don’t remember what the 3rd one looked like. I wanted to speak with the 2nd one but she stayed away as the first one came close to me. We bargained although we hadn’t a word in common, not even “yes” or “no”.
As far as I remember, she proposed me for sex for 1 million dong (about 1,500 baht in 2016) or 500,000 . I knew I couldn’t bring her to my room and I tried to ask her to invite me to her room. (Next time, I will have google translator in my phone). She then made me understand she offered a BJ in the bush near the boulevard for 200,000 dong. She used her phone’s calculator and signs to tell me and I must have answered OK. We didn’t even know how to say “yes” or “no” in one another’s language. She sat on my motorbike and I followed her signs. She made me ride on the grass then we stopped close to a bush about 100 m away from the boulevard. I could see cars and trucks lights passing on the boulevard but we were to far to be seen in their lights. I put my fingers in her pants to find a small cock what excited me as she was sucking me. She didn’t suck like ThaI ladyboys often do, a professional way without strong contact. She was greedy to have a sex in her mouth and I could feel it. I made her stop several times not to cum too fast and to check that cars and trucks didn’t stop or slow down after the driver saw something but everything went OK.
When I cummed into her mouth, she didn’t try to escape but sucked the cum as a precious juice. Then she licked my dickhead all around as a kid who’s finished eating an ice cream and doesn’t want to miss the last drops. Back to my hotel, I read the regulation again and looked for any possibility to make a ladyboy come in but found nothing. On the next evening, I went back to the place but a field had been used for a school fiesta and ladyboys didn’t come and hang near the food carts. When I go back there, I will rent an Airbnb room.
The same place in day time
Somewhere in Vietnam YYY
For the same reasons as above, I won’t write where is YYY. I had been advised by a country fellow in XXX that YYY had agreat red light district.
As I reached the city, I was invited by a Pole to go and have a drink in a night bar with a Canadian guy. I just had to go with them to see the bar area. I just found a few bars near the harbor and I understood why people say “drink as a Pole” in my mother language. Since the Canadian wasn’t in a better shape, I asked the girl to whom I had paid LDs to BF her. There is no BF in Vietnam but she didn’t understand what I meant. She eventually asked me for 3,000,000 dong to stay with me till the next morning: far too much.
As I walked back to my hotel, I saw pimps riding around with their motorbikes. An old lady came to me and proposed me “lady massage boom boom”. It’d been a pain in the ass to get rid of her since she was almost threatening me to go with her. What would it be when I would not be satisfied of the girl she would propose me. She eventually forgot me when she picked a a young British walking back to his hotel. Poor guy !
On the following day, I decided to play “Wechat”. I met a bar girl in her 30’s looking for a sponsor to take care of her and her daughter. I had a contact with the boss of the bar where I was on the previous night. I had the feeling his sister was a lesbian and he confirmed me he was a gay. Nice guy though. I also had a contact with a working girl in an hotel in he same street as mine. I asked her if she was a ladyboy since her breast looked very flat. She answered me I must be a sick man to think so.
Later, I found the opportunity: Lyly_tv. She is a local ladyboy working in Kuala Lumpur or Singapore. She was 29 years old. It took more than 1 hour to bargain. The main difficulty was to decide where to meet. She wanted to go to my hotel but I feared the boss or the employee at the reception to refuse her access. Then she thought of coming dressed as a boy without make up and whig and to make up in my room but this was not acceptable for me. I insisted and she accepted to let me go to her place, but she also feared troubles with her landlord. It took me so much time to go there that the landlord was already sleeping. Lyly rented a room like a garage in the house where she had installed a mezzanine on which she put her bed. But the mezzanine was too hot, so she had moved her mattress on the ground. In spite of these poor conditions, we were not troubled by anybody and I had a great sex party with an expert for 2 hours that costed me 1,000,000 dong.
Lyly explained me that she had to live her ladyboy’s life as a cross dresser because she has to use a male identity to across boarders every time she needs to make a visa run in Malaysia or to go back to Vietnam.
Saigon (Ho Chi Minh)
I won’t tell all the details but be aware that Saigon is a city full of pimps and bad business. Usually, pimps are motorbike drivers, they try to make you believe that they are close friends of police officers and they like to threaten you. As I “played Wechat”, I had a bad business with a girl. As I paid her only 20 % of the price, I received messages from her Wechat account. I realized I had bargained with her pimp. I should have had an alarm when I asked her to have a video chat with her. She had hesitated too much.
I stayed twice in Saigon and regretfully, I could tell you quite a few pimp stories in just 2 nights.
Massage ladies and hookers in Bui Vien in daytime (in the morning).
Back to ladyboys. I found one ladyboy in Bui Vien Street that is supposed to be the RLD in Saigon. Regretfully, it looks more like Khao San Road than like Nana plaza. I saw bars with girls though and one of these girls was an elderly ladyboy (at least 30 years old).
During my second stay in Saigon, I had a good contact with a ladyboy living in district 8. I had managed to check her look thanks to a video contact, her price was interesting (500,000 dong for a 1 hour time) but we had to agree on a place where to meet. She lived at her mother’s, I was not sure that my hotel would let her in and she wanted me to get a room at 500,000 dong in an hotel near Bui Vien. She eventually broke the contact.
I had also found a few adresses in a website. I checked a couple of them but in vain.
When riding back to Cambodia, I had more contacts with girls or ladyboys with Wechat.
Motorbike drivers in Saigon. At the green light, they rush on the sidewalk to pass the intersection
Back to Thailand, I decided to try again with Wechat.
I found Salisa on Wechat before I had booked a room. This ladyboy came to my bungalow. I was surprised when she told me she was 30 years old. We had a great time together and she left me without asking for money.
On the next evening, she told me I was too far from he hotel where she worked as a receptionist. I wondered if it was due I hadn’t paid her. However, I had a contact with a 20 years old ladyboy. She asked me for 1,000 baht at the end although she didn’t look as pretty as Salisa and was not as good in the room. There is no rule in Thailand.
Fairly early in the evening, I found a ladyboy freelancing in Soi Buakhaow. This place remains a great value. This good looking ladyboy complained of pain in her ass after almost one hour and I didn’t find her on the next day.
Later in the evening, I found a great looking ladyboy in soi LK metro. We ageed to go for a ST, but she wanted me to walk to her bar first and pay for a BF. This made me feel one more time more reluctant to try the experience in a bar.
On the next evening, I decided to try Wechat. This is amazing how Pattaya can look different when looking for a ladyboy with Wechat. I was having my dinner in a restaurant. Pattaya looked like a radar screen and the list of possible meetings looked endless. Instead of sitting in a bar and order a beer (and drink too much alcohol during my holidays), I just ordered a banana split and started chatting. I noticed that an important parameter in these conditions is the rapidity to answer to messages. If you are too long to answer a fast contact, you might loose the contact. On the other hand, slow contacts don’t understand that I already made the deal with another one while they just had asked answered to my question “how are you doing ? “. I had an excellent time with a 20 years student who had not been connected to Thaifriendly for 8 months (Gusjang). I felt happy to find another kind of ladyboy.
Later in the evening, I had been to Katoeys R Us. I had a good time watching pretty femboys and offering a lady’s drink, but when it comes to dealing with ST, although the price remains the same (1,000 baht), yo must add 500 baht for the BF and 500 baht for a ST hotel since my room was to far from K R Us for a ST.
For my last night in Pattaya, I invited Gusjang for a ST. everything went OK, but when it’s been time to fuck her, she told me she had too much pain in her ass due the previous day’s fucking. I found it frustrating although we had sex except fucking but I paid her normally although I felt like paying her with a discount.
I slept then went out late in the night almost the next morning. I caught a ladyboy freelancing on Beach Road that I had seen when I was going to Katoeys R Us. This time, she was coming back from her last customer and felt like having a quick bargain with me without talking. I didn’t find her seductive this time and let her go.
My fist idea after I arrived in Bangkok had been to try Wechat once again. But in November 2016, Wechat was not in the uses of Bangkok ladyboys yet.
I then opened my Line account and checked Line contacts I had made on Thaifriendly during the months before departing. Thisis how I invited Natpichakorn aka Oy or Oil to my room. She offered the stand BKK price (1,500 baht) and as I wrote before .
I went out and found easily a freelancer on Sukhumvit near soi 13. She was a student At Bangkok University. She still had the threads of her scarves for her mammaplasty under her arms. It’s been the first time a ladyboy wanted to use a condom for a BJ. Then, she had been good fucking. After a while, she got tired and give me a BBBJ and ended with a big load of cum on her teeth. As I wondered why she wanted a BBBJ, she explained me that her ass hurt and she preferred cume in her mouth. Great smile anyway (with milk on her teeth).
Later, I have been to True Obsession. I paid a LD to this ladyboy. I don’t remember her name at True Obsession but they call her Pam at ladyboyguide) , but once again, I was dissuaded to pay for the BF and the ST room.
For my last night in Thailand, I had to go to Suvarnabhumi after midnight. I left my baggage in my hotel and hanged at True Obsession. “Pam” was not there. I paid 2 LDs but girls wanted to talk to deal a ST only. I didn’t find them as interesting as “Pam” and a few of them jeers at my excuses to avoid barfining them.
As I turn right on Sukhumvit to go back to my hotel, I watched the people waiting at the traffic light to walk across Sukhumvit and saw that Zara had stopped walking across and was watching me. I had had a contact with her on Thaifriendly before departing and had chatted on Line with her but she hadn’t contacted me when I told her I was in Bangkok. I counted ly money in my wallet : just a little bit more than 1,500 baht and I still needed money to pay for the skytrain and a little bit food in the airport. Zara invited to a ST hotel in soi 3 near Sukhumvit (300 baht) and accepted 1,000 for a ST. This 30 years old femboy turned up to be hot and without taboo. I usually prefer younger ladyboys “freshmeat” but Zara did share pleasure in sex. When our time was over, we felt like doing again, but I reminded I had to pick up my baggage in ly hotel then go to Suvarnabhumi. This year, I noticed that Zara had her breast operation. I invited her to meet me in Bangkok so that I can pay her the 500 baht I deem I owe her but she didn’t reply.