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[jonnieb]

I might be inclined to take you serious on this; however, I have noticed a common theme in your posts. You appear to enjoy stirring the pot by making inflammatory statements. It is very difficult for me to tell if you are being sincere or just taking an opposing opinion for the fun of it.
That said, I'll play along, at least for a post or two.
Your comparison of "Killer Black Man" to "Killer Ladyboy" is compelling to a degree, and it did make me pause to think about it.
However, if there is one thing I hold sacred, it is the freedom of speech. It is easy to defend freedom of speech when you agree with the speaker, but when you don't agree, well, that is when you find out if you are a hypocrite or not.
Charles' choice for the title of his book isn't that provocative in my opinion; while I will concede there is a negative connotation to it, I think it is dubious to claim that it does damage to the general perception of Ladyboys.
Authors and artists should be free to create and make whatever statements they want. Then again, you have the right to voice a dissenting opinion.
Thanks for giving me a pause to ponder the issue.

I seem to recall someone recently posting about the lack of interesting discourse on the forum...and now you complain because someone may be "stirring the pot"? If all you guys want is a mutual wank society where everyone is pleasuring each other and patting each other on the back so be it; however, it would be a pretty boring forum in my view.

I criticized the author of this work for his choice of title, which I assume he chose, for the reasons I stated. I stand by by criticism. I never said the author should not have published the work but only that as an artist, they have to stand by it and defend it. I, as an art consumer, also have the right and duty to judge an artistic work, in the case of a book this includes its title, and decide if I want to support the work and patronize the artist. I have nothing personally against this author/artist and wish him well. I just wish in future he would more carefully consider the implications and effect of his work on society. Of course, I also recognize it's the responsibility of an artist to stretch the boundaries of everyday life and experience and relate this to us in their works.

[dixon cox]

Is that the best you can do...the ad hominem attack? If you have no answer to my substantive comments then shut your cake-hole!

Apologies. I hadn't actually read any of your input following your first post on this thread which contained it's usual and predictable negativity. The thing is I know you can smile, I've seen it, but sadly it rarely shows in your posts.

 

By the way, it's a banana hole not a cake hole. But I am rather partial to banana cake, as a compromise   

[Moo Yung]

I seem to recall someone recently posting about the lack of interesting discourse on the forum...and now you complain because someone may be "stirring the pot"? If all you guys want is a mutual wank society where everyone is pleasuring each other and patting each other on the back so be it; however, it would be a pretty boring forum in my view.

I criticized the author of this work for his choice of title, which I assume he chose, for the reasons I stated. I stand by by criticism. I never said the author should not have published the work but only that as an artist, they have to stand by it and defend it. I, as an art consumer, also have the right and duty to judge an artistic work, in the case of a book this includes its title, and decide if I want to support the work and patronize the artist. I have nothing personally against this author/artist and wish him well. I just wish in future he would more carefully consider the implications and effect of his work on society. Of course, I also recognize it's the responsibility of an artist to stretch the boundaries of everyday life and experience and relate this to us in their works.

 

 

What utter nonsense. All this anger, trying to criticize an author and his work is solely based on the title.

 

I'm all for people having strong opinions but to start a moral debate on transgender stereotypes and the ethics of this author, based on the title alone, is absurd. How on earth do you know how the author has portrayed ladyboys based on the title alone?

 

No right minded person expects a title of a piece of fiction to be anything more than a teaser, and often a play one words and expectations. If anything the title of a piece of work such as this is meant to invoke interest, intrigue, or debate, which it now seems to be doing.

[cpang]

I seemed to have caused a lively debate!

The title is deliberately sensationalist and provocative, so is the cover for that matter.To gain attention in a crowded book market a writer has to do all they can to muster the attention of a potential buyer.

Again I stress that I in no way wish to be derogatory to Ladyboys or to guys who have LB partners/girlfriends/sexual encounters with. The two main LB characters in the series of books use their sexual magnetism and fight for vengeance or when they are under threat.

They are anti-heroes in respect that they do nasty things to nasty people.

Ultimately the books are intended to make the reader horny, wince at some gory parts but hopefully they will be entertained by the experience. They aren't meant to be a deep social commentary nor works of classic literature.

[Spyder Rocket]

I seem to recall someone recently posting about the lack of interesting discourse on the forum...and now you complain because someone may be "stirring the pot"? If all you guys want is a mutual wank society where everyone is pleasuring each other and patting each other on the back so be it; however, it would be a pretty boring forum in my view.
I criticized the author of this work for his choice of title, which I assume he chose, for the reasons I stated. I stand by by criticism. I never said the author should not have published the work but only that as an artist, they have to stand by it and defend it. I, as an art consumer, also have the right and duty to judge an artistic work, in the case of a book this includes its title, and decide if I want to support the work and patronize the artist. I have nothing personally against this author/artist and wish him well. I just wish in future he would more carefully consider the implications and effect of his work on society. Of course, I also recognize it's the responsibility of an artist to stretch the boundaries of everyday life and experience and relate this to us in their works.

I actually defended your right to express a dissenting opinion, and even thanked you for spurring me to think about the book's title; if you read my post again, you'll see that.

I expressed doubt about the sincerity of your position because the tone and theme of all your posts. If you want to "stir the pot" with your comments, feel free to do so; however, the consequence of continually making combative posts is that people will think you are a troll.

It is completely your call, but you might want to consider throwing out a balanced and less edgy post once in a while.

Perhaps not? After all, it is only the reputation of your forum persona that is at stake.

Cheers!

[Macman]

I always heard it expressed as "pie-hole".  This adds absolutely nothing to the discussion, but ...

[jonnieb]

I actually defended your right to express a dissenting opinion, and even thanked you for spurring me to think about the book's title; if you read my post again, you'll see that.
I expressed doubt about the sincerity of your position because the tone and theme of all your posts. If you want to "stir the pot" with your comments, feel free to do so; however, the consequence of continually making combative posts is that people will think you are a troll.
It is completely your call, but you might want to consider throwing out a balanced and less edgy post once in a while.
Perhaps not? After all, it is only the reputation of your forum persona that is at stake.
Cheers!

My posting history includes many, I would hope, non-controversial and helpful posts as well. I take the author at his word that he meant no disrespect to anyone and I'm equally sure most of us here would not take any at the choice of title as we all know ladyboys as real people. It's the haters out there who might see a work titled such as this and have their prejudices confirmed is what I worry about, that's all. How about a title like "Dark Angel" or "Avenging Angel" or something in that vein...I sure a good author could come up with many creative titles for such a work... in this crime-noir genre. Anyway, good luck with the book and I hope folks enjoy it.

[jonnieb]

Apologies. I hadn't actually read any of your input following your first post on this thread which contained it's usual and predictable negativity. The thing is I know you can smile, I've seen it, but sadly it rarely shows in your posts.
 
By the way, it's a banana hole not a cake hole. But I am rather partial to banana cake, as a compromise   

Next time we meet, I'll be sure to bring you a banana muffin

[streetlite]

A great read, very good writing, interesting plot but way to short. I finished in an hour. Wanted more.

[cpang]

Thanks for the kind comments Streetlite.

 

The sequel - Killer Ladyboy : Thrill Kill is available on Amazon. I'm currently writing the third and final instalment.