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#13 Surin Nix

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 11:08 PM

...but not lose your head now......i was there for 2 weeks.....move around all day and night-time ALONE !!....never a problem with anybody, and the golden rule is there than for everywhere...

.....if you not make yourself for a crime-target...you never will be target of any crime acitiviy....

means, look, move and live like all here.....not try to be shining star....that light attract all kind of subjects....

for me it was a great experience and without that english realy not work a full plesant time..... :butterfly: :butterfly:


Hi Juri,

I particularly enjoy your posts and TR's, and appreciate your comments on the topic of Sao Paulo. I sincerely am not trying to be alarmist or overly paranoid. I've been prowling and mongering around the world for a long time. Perhaps the account of the co-worker being beaten (a true story), hit very close to home.

The dilemma of "not making yourself a target" for most non-Brazilian travelers is one of language and appearance. It is all-too-common for "gringos" to walk the streets with their fair skin and blue eyes, speaking english loudly.....and thus attracting by those factors alone the attention of the locals. Like you, I tend to prowl alone, and in some ways feel safer doing so because I have dark features.

Having said that, I am pleased to hear about your visit and would like to learn a little more. I wouldn't mind going on a walkabout, and so perhaps you might shed a bit more light on some aspects if you don't mind.

You mentioned the Parque de Republica, and I was able to find it via mapquest. It's about 2 KM from my usual hotel. Based on your post, I would have an interest in having a look......and perhaps not unlike yourself (unsure), I am able to "blend" in terms of appearance since I have dark hair, dark eyes, and darker features. Most Brazilians think I am Brazilian, until I speak....then of course, it's obvious I'm not.

The park area looks to be a big place, and I'm wondering if you can advise me perhaps a bit more specifically which area you would suggest it would be ok to look (east/west..etc.....a certain street around the park.....in the park itself?).

Suggestions?

Best regards, and thanks for all your great commentary and great TR's!

Thanks,

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 01:49 AM

...hmmm, not care too much about your outfit.....brasil with white skin and blone hair there too, so this is not the factor.....

On daytime the park-area is very, very save....a lot of police is permanent routing there....and in nighttime a lot of drug-dealer hangs around, but they not care you......'cause we are no busines for they... you just pass this place, so dont worry about...

...and in the street "regio freitas" (look at the map) close to the park there is the venue of ladyboys.....a street place with some perfect sweetys on nighttime (starts up from 9pm..) with ST-room around the corner...my price there ever 50.- BRL for girl &room..very, very cheap for that service..... :D :D

then u have there the 2 major discos for meet all the nameless and superstars....(and not get sad about, it's not Siam, no "hello sexy man"...nobody care u there) named Planet and Danger (not forget to bring a copie of your passport...without no entry) in Planet (only fr & sa) they hang up and your ball get boilied what you see...belive me...but also a lot of hansume brasilos are around...so not easy, but you have the bonus as a non Brasilan, 'cause with their nice Boys they can fuck everyday, but a gringo is much, much more better...lol...so i have my best experiences there.....'cause if she* goes with you, then just for fun and fuck...oh my god....!!!!! and if u a gentleman give her after the money for a taxi, but never more or she will kick you....
.and the disco "Danger" have every thursday a live show...stars 3-4am....incredibble...man, lady, gay and ladyboy on stage..suck and fuck for real....never seen that in a public disco.....and after there is the hell on earth.....
For the daytime or if you shy, there is a lb-site called "bananatrans" there u have all lb listend with pic and phone-number, just send a sms and she will visit you at hotel (more expensive 100.- BRL up..) but the "superstars" will come also....and not forget to install a brasil-simcard, every bookshop have and will activate it..

and my own experience too....not easy to get pic's from, they dont like it, but sweetmouth Juri found some who smile in my cam..... :pic:

hope this help for the begin............Juri*

#15 Surin Nix

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Posted 10 September 2010 - 02:15 AM

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hope this help for the begin............Juri*


Juri,

Thank you for the best information I have seen to date regarding the scene in Sao Paulo.

Guess I'll be heading to Danger and Planet discos soon.....passport copy in hand!

.....and a daytime stroll around the park sounds pretty interesting too.

Again, thank you for taking the time. Great information!

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#16 patrick009

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Posted 14 September 2010 - 12:05 AM

Hello Juri,
hello Nix,

Many thanks for your comments and recommendations.

In fact, I posted the same question on a Brazilian Forum and received similar feed-backs from locals :

on the one side, to avoid street action as it can - often / regularly - turned out to be very dangerous in particular for non speaking Portuguese foreigners.

on the other side, some saying that if you if you keep your eyes wide open, you will avoid trouble and have a good time.

But most posts indicate that street action is dangerous and recommend to choose TS using one the numerous internet sites.

But what a pity to be there and stay in the hotel room watching CNN!

One recommendation made by a guy in Rio, is to take a cab and make a cruise around the hot spots and then to make your selection by remaining in the car.

As for the exact locations, I got the following clarification:

Rego Freitas or Rua Amaral Gurgel, which is a parallel street and might be more packed with TG than Rego Freita.

Another option in SP is to use the services of HILDA BRAZIL. She is advertising her services not only as TS but also a "guide to the TS scene in SP". I read many good comments made by locals on the lady. Of course, the services might be a little bit expensive.

As my stay in SP will be mainly dedicated to biz, I guess I will for the safe way.

Patrick
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#17 boratdcc

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 04:35 PM

If you don't mind me asking, what's the name of the Brazilian site? Just curious, lol. I hope they have field reports........ :harhar: :harhar: :harhar:

#18 charlie101

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 10:20 PM

He said it was bananatrans, just googled it and the site is top of the list. Hope your portuguese is good!

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 04:23 AM

Hi boratdcc,

The site is eliteacompanhantes. just add the usual dot com dot br and here it is.

You will find hundreds of threads but all in Portuguese that you can translate using google language.

I am not sure there is forum on bananatrans but will check.

Cheers, Patrick
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 06:50 AM

Hi Patrick, Ive re-attached a report I uploaded back in June of this year. This will give you practical information, which you are looking for.

The following Brazilian website can be accessed Guia de Acompanhantes - Garotas de programa, Travestis, Transex forum for upto date contact information for girls and trans events taking place. It's in Portugese but is still a good source reference guide.

When in Rio I did a bit of prowling around at night to see what the city had to offer. I used the information already uploaded onto Ladyboy 69 forum to help direct me initially. It's naturally somewhat out of date but what travel guide books/forums aren't I hear you say. Anyhow the following is my short report based on my experiences.

1. Lapa neighbourhood-

I counted around 6 trannies-tall Amazonian type of average quality, hanging about on both sides of the main street in Lapa (R.Teixeira des Freitas) on a very busy Friday night interminging with punters on the traffic island around the food stalls. The going rate was 150 Brazilian reais solely based on one who I spoke with. I wasn't tempted as she was not the friendliest and the rate was a bit high I thought.

Elsewhere in Lapa around 100 yards up from the petrol station along Avenue Republica de Paraguai- 4 streets converge. I saw 6-7 loitering around next to low budget hotels on a Tuesday and Thursday nights around midnight. Approached several of them and the going rate was just 30 to 50 reais for completa/ all in. What was interesting is that they are standing literally only 15 yards away from where people are drinking in bars. As a result it is safe to approach them and chat to each in turn. No need to get a taxi therefore. If one strikes your fancy all you have to do is walk across the street to the hotels where rooms are available to hire at 20 reais. The quality of the girls was 'poor to average'.

Around 800 metres away in Avenue dua Gloria and Av Augusto do Severo you can also find them loitering. This is more off the beaten track so you may want to initially get a taxi if your a little nervous and get him to drive around. After the 1st night I walked up to this location as people where constantly leaving Lapa to go home along this stretch. Once again the quality was just OK to average. Rate was 50 reais for completa and 20 for hotel.

2. Centro Area

I went to a club on a Wednesday night which is given over to trannies and their admirers in the Centro area of Rio. Just google Club Mix Rio. You'll need to get a cab to it. Paid 50 reais entrance fee. Very small club. Only 8-9 girls turned up on the night I went and the quality of girls was poor to average. You could take photos and get the girls numbers easily. Because nothing was really happening in the club on the night in question I decided to get a taxi outside the door of the club. I struck up a conversation of sorts with my driver. His name is Rossine and his phone number is 7849-7149. He took me back to Lapa around Augusto Sevoro upon my request but he persuaded me to take a taxi up to Copacabana's main strip along the ocean front Avenue d'Atlantica.

3. Copacabana.

Sure enough there were several lingering between the cars. All I had to do was roll down the windscreen and Rossine acted as my interpreter. He hangled the prices down from 100 reais to 50. I got a very attractive girl. He drove me to her appartment in Copacabana so there was no hotel charge. This was a great experience all in. Rossine is a good guy. He speaks only a little English but even if you have basic Portugese I would call him.

4. Copacana solo

On another night I went back to Copacabana and got a taxi - but not with Rossine on this occasion to a bar called The Balcony around half along the Copacabana beach stretch. It has a tent outside and is populated by female prostitutes. I was interested in some pussy action. However, I counted around 6 trannies who were present. They were not seeking out business unlike the girls who were upfront. Ass pinching, balls squeezed etc There was a police car outside strangely so one felt at ease. I chatted to a few of the transexals outside for the laugh. Recognised a few of the girls from porn flicks. The going rate was for between 100-200 reais for 3 hours apparently and the nearby hotel 50 reais. In the end I went for a tall 5ft 11 inches natural black type. She quoted me 100 Brazilian reais all in / completa, so I went for it. I paid her upfront once we got to the hotel to get that out of the way. We got down to action. Spent around 30 minutes and came by giving myself a hand job. Not good. Got dressed and went to leave the room.

With that the tranny suddenly locked the hotel door and put her foot over it. She demanded extra cash or so I believe because I had sucked her, - not off by the way. I couldn't understand how much she was looking so I tried to communicate with her. She was getting excited and raising her voice saying what I think was policy or polica or something to that effect. I tried to open the lock of the door and a struggle ensued. I manged to unlock it but then she grabbed me by the shirt and would not let go. It was getting serious at this stage.

I'm 6ft 2inches, 15 stone and can handle myself. Even so s/he was very strong and ripped my shirt. She was shooting a name at that stage, which I reckoned was her pimp and tried to call him. I grabbed the phone out of her hand. I turned and went to run down. She kicked out at me and I fell forward onto the stairs. My fall was broken by a balcony 4 steps down thankfully. I just rang out of the place for my life but shooted at the doorman and receptionist as I left that she was crazy. I imagine they have seen this all before. I was lucky because I just got out as they were about to come up the stairs. Who knows what might have happened if I they had come 2 seconds earlier. I rang down 2 blocks and hailed a yellow taxi. As I looked back down from where I had ran from I saw what I think was her returning probably back to the same club maybe to get her pimp.

So thats my account. A mixed experience I'm sure you'll agree. Without Portuguse it is hard. I called a few of them via mobile but it was difficult. Unless you are prepared to meet them at your hotel the better looking girls will remain out of reach. I never made it to Sao Paulo so cant talk about it. However, there are a lot more in that city from what I've seen on Banana trans site and the one I quoted at the outset.

All in all I would conclude that Thailand is a much more pleasant to pick up transexuals. It is safer in my experience, cheaper, less expensive more straightfoward and language communication is far less of a hassle.

As for looks, well beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I prefer Thais. The Brazilians insist on covered blowjobs which was a downer for me personally. I never shagged any.

I hope this report is of use to fellow travellers. Take care and be safe.

#21 patrick009

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 03:02 AM

Hello Slan,

Thanks for having copied your report together with the advice and recommendation.

Basically, this is the feed-back I am getting from posting similar messages on a couple of Brazilian sites, i.e.

street action can turn pretty bad even for locals;

the nicest and best girls all advertise on the net;

very difficult to arrange a meeting if you do not speak Portuguese;

to the exception of a couple of night clubs in SP, there aren't any bars / disco to be recommended;

I had very good response from several locals willing to share information and recommending girls. A couple of them were also interested to brush up their English - which is not my native language as you can guess.

But, as you wrote, communication is a problem. Even by sending e-mails with google language the response is rather poor.

As indicated above, Hilda Brazil gave me a very good feedback. But unfortunately, she will not be in SP when I am getting there.

Brazil seems excellent for GG with thermas. Very safe, good fun and easy going. I read many good reports from WSA with lots of great pix.

I fully agree with your conclusion, LOS is a far better - and cheaper - place for picking TS and fun.

I will anyway continue my search.

More news to follow.

Cheers. Patrick
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#22 boratdcc

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 01:45 PM

Thanks for the reply patrick. I've gone through a lot of photos on that forum, so tempting. I Wish I was in Brazil!!!

How would you go about calling some of these girls anyway? It would be pretty hard to arrange via the phone if they only speak Portuguese. I guess it's time to study some Portuguese, lol.

#23 patrick009

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 03:53 AM

Hi boratdcc,

Very tempting, isn't it ?

I am afraid time is too short to learn and I am too old to remember. I guess you need to hire a driver / bodyguard / translator / skilled negociator.

Otherwise, no score.

I have tried by sending e-mail but the response is rather poor.

My only solution, to find someone over there willing to arrange it for you.

Any other idea ?

Cheers, Patrick
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#24 boratdcc

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 09:15 AM

Hiring a translator sounds like a good idea, although it would be quite embarrasing, lol. I guess it's no different to hiring a cab driver and getting him to give you a tour.

I think the best idea is to get someone from eliteacompanhantes to arrange it for you. Life is too short I say, just give it a go.




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