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[batman4ever]

i am living with hope for successful future test results, though the risk must be low, according to statistics - 0,06 %.

Alex,

From your message it was a bit hard to establish what kind of unsafe anal sex you had. Did you only come in her or did she come in you? As you know, that makes a tremenduous difference in risk of contracting HIV. The receiver is at a considerably greater risk.

Peace!

H

sorry to inform you.....but its pure BULLSHIT you write......

every time there is"blood to blood" contact...its dossent matter who recieve or deliever....

[drhoneytongue]

i am living with hope for successful future test results, though the risk must be low, according to statistics - 0,06 %.

Alex,

From your message it was a bit hard to establish what kind of unsafe anal sex you had. Did you only come in her or did she come in you? As you know, that makes a tremenduous difference in risk of contracting HIV. The receiver is at a considerably greater risk.

Peace!

H

sorry to inform you.....but its pure BULLSHIT you write......

every time there is"blood to blood" contact...its dossent matter who recieve or deliever....

IT IS NOT BULLSHIT - there is an approximate 1:3 ratio risk of being infected with HIV, depending whether you are the depositor, or the recipient.

Male-male, male-female - basically the same odds.

The infected semen remains in contact with serosal mucous layers, for a lot longer than the penis does, and it only needs small, microscopic ruptures for the virus to enter the blood stream and cells.

A traumatised rectum or vagina may only have minute blood losses which are not enough to infect an undamaged penis, but there is enough semen there with a longer exposure time to infect the recipient.

Ever womdered why mosquitoes do not transmit HIV?
Or someone with a low sperm count cannot father children?

In the epidemiology of infectious diseases, there is often a minimum quotient required to transmit an infection.

[kliome]

I don't think this is a good topic to dwell on, but drhoneytongue is correct in stating that you are far more susceptible to hiv when receiving anal penetration, rather than only giving.

When ever this topic comes up figures always get banded about with no comfortable conclusion, and it generally leads to gloomy reading.

We all know there is a risk involved when partaking in unprotected (not just hiv but all STDs), and yes, receiving anal penetration puts you at far greater risk of hiv.

If you choose to go unprotected it's obviously not advised but it's up to you and your partner. If however you use protection and it breaks, you would be incredibly unlucky to contract hiv. In fact it's very common for people to freak out when this first happens, I've seen a lot of people do it, and torture themselves waiting to take the test and get their results. But in every case I have seen someone go through this they have always come back with a good result and felt a bit silly for over reacting.

A reminder to most people, is that Hep B is far more commonly contracted in Thailand through unprotected sex, and in the long run, once contracted, it is more fatal than hiv (for westerners). The saddest thing is that you can take shots that can go along giving you immunity from Hep B. there is usually a charge for Hep B vaccinations, but anyone travelling to LOS, planning to bed a few LBs or GGs, would be silly not to take it before hand.

[udrees]

A reminder to most people, is that Hep B is far more commonly contracted in Thailand through unprotected sex, and in the long run, once contracted, it is more fatal than hiv (for westerners). The saddest thing is that you can take shots that can go along giving you immunity from Hep B. there is usually a charge for Hep B vaccinations, but anyone travelling to LOS, planning to bed a few LBs or GGs, would be silly not to take it before hand.

So if i already did vaccination against Hep B and Hep A, i can be infected ? sounds not good to me.
among other STD, HIV is still considered far more dangerous and scary infection.
other STD i can cure, at least in a hospital.

every time there is"blood to blood" contact...its dossent matter who recieve or deliever...

usually sperm contains some amount of HIV which can be enough to infect you.
For a medical workers, small drop of blood on the needle of syringe is enough to be infected, though the risk is quite low.

[brad117]

mardhi is right. Hep A,B, and C is much more prevelent and easier to catch. It is not "in the news" like hiv but can really cause hardship/pain and death. It destroys your liver. You can and should be vaccinated against it. That is the difference - there is no vaccination for hiv. But why be focused on hiv if you haven't taken advantage of the vaccinations for hep a,b,c???????????? It is much more likely to get you.....

[patrick]

Thank God I have had the Hep ABC shot, I do enough damage to my liver as it is

[udrees]

Specifically to your own condition - you have two choices:-
1. Go and see an infectious diseases specialist wherever you are and tell them truthfully when the act took place, who it was with and what type of anal sex it was (receiving or giving) and if condoms were used or not. There are tests that can pickup within days the amount of virus within the blood stream however they are not routine tests and they are very expensive. They are called viral load tests. In Thailand as an examle, your looking at a cost of about 6000baht for that one test and its complicated to analyse hence its costs are so high.
2. Depending upon those circumstances described above - the specialist doctor (and do not rely on a regular general doctor or clinic - you need to see a specialist), they may suggest you take a course of post exposure medicine. This may last for 2 months or so and its basically the same medicine used to treat HIV infection. This has a claimed high success rate in avoided letting HIV even take hold and it gets wiped out completely before it gets into the places where the medicines cant get to it.

haha, it is not so easy.
post exposure medicine is not for everybody.
i asked this question in AIDS-center in my country. the specialist answered me and showed article about post exposure medicine for medicine workers, who suddenly were infected during medical procedures. Usually their patient who probably infected them, is tested. And if he is HIV positive with high viral quantity in a blood, they have to take medicine no later than 72 hours after contact. The medicine is long, you are right, it takes no less than 1 month and it is expensive, has some negative effects, which can make you to stop taking drugs. You have 79 % of having good results after all.
Hmm, sounds it is not for a common people.

[DimitriWolfe]

Many of the doctors in the smaller clinics will give them a clean bill of health for 500b. I've seen it with my own eyes.

Most bars say they test, but they don't.

HIV is a huge problem in Thailand, so if you want to take the right tests, go to Bumrungrad or another large hospital and take both the Elisa and the PCR-DNA tests.

Best of luck.

[Ladyboy Lust]

Thank God I have had the Hep ABC shot, I do enough damage to my liver as it is

hi, there is NO protection against Hepatitis C...

IMHO Hepatitis C is even worse then H.I.V..

A shot against Hep A+B is a must for LB-lover.

[patt24]

I would recomend everyone that has anal sex to get tested at least once a year. I do not believe any statistics on how many people have it as there is people on both sides with their beliefs and agendas. Some espouse ridiculously high numbers and some deny it altogether.
Always wash yourself thoroughly as soon as possible after sex. It also seems logical that hand sanitizer if it was rubbed on and into the urethera (stings but will work)
As far as oral ,it has never been proven that it has been transmitted this way however, people will debate this furiously.

[jamesallen66]

Another factor I didn't see mentioned here is that the strength of your immune system can help deter small amounts of virus that have entered your blood stream from taking hold. For this reason, it's a good idea to take care of your health before, during, and after a trip. Get plenty of sleep, water, etc., and not too much drinking. Basically, if you're doing the types of things that normally cause you to get colds or other illnesses, then you're putting yourself at a greater risk.

[patt24]

By the way, There is no vaccine against Hep C. That is a fact