Hi,
I am looking for a job in Thai ladyboy entertainment industries. Does anybody know which company will give me a job??
Amy
Hong Kong Ladyboy seeking job
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amyc
, Jul 20 2007 12:37 PM
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Posted 20 July 2007 - 01:04 PM
I'm not an expert like some of the people here, but from what I've read...
If you're looking for P4P work (sex trade):
Most bars seem to be somewhat willing to take just about anyone appropriate for their clientele, as long as they're drug and disease free, and have certificates to prove it. Just go to the bars and talk to the owner or mamasan.
If you're an entertainer:
Try bars that do cabaret shows. It's a fairly transient industry in that no one is tied too much to a venue, so there should almost always be demand for new talent if you've got the talent. If you're really passable and talented, getting in one of the major pageants/cabarets is a good way to get noticed, but I have no idea how you'd go about doing that.
If you're interested in doing strictly porn:
Keep in mind that pornography is illegal in Thailand, and unlike prostitution, the authorities do occasionally crack down on the producers and participants. With that in mind, getting in touch with the owners of this and other major sites (some of whom also post here) would probably be the way to go. However, it probably won't be very frequent work, even if you appear on multiple sites, and it probably won't pay nearly as much as other work options. Most people either do a mix, or do porn as a sideline while working a normal job.
If you're a masseuse:
Even if it's not required by a parlor, it's always good to be trained and certified; there are a few rather different kinds of massage services. Again, your best bet if you want to simply get hired would be to go to the various parlors till you find one that has an opening. However, you may be better off offering private services, developing a reputation as a freelancer, and then leveraging it to get a lucrative table in a parlor and bring your regular customers with you. As an independent, it's more or less up to you whether your services are therapeutic (purely non-sexual), certified therapeutic (if you're certified that is), sensual, or more. Whether you have that flexibility in a parlor depends on the policies of the parlor.
Any other sort of work is basically a combination of talent, networking, self-promotion, and lots and lots of luck. However, if you're a DJ or electronic music artist, let's talk. I'm not in a position to hire though, only promote/publish.
Could you clarify what sort of work you're looking for? It might help people be able to give you a better answer.
If you're looking for P4P work (sex trade):
Most bars seem to be somewhat willing to take just about anyone appropriate for their clientele, as long as they're drug and disease free, and have certificates to prove it. Just go to the bars and talk to the owner or mamasan.
If you're an entertainer:
Try bars that do cabaret shows. It's a fairly transient industry in that no one is tied too much to a venue, so there should almost always be demand for new talent if you've got the talent. If you're really passable and talented, getting in one of the major pageants/cabarets is a good way to get noticed, but I have no idea how you'd go about doing that.
If you're interested in doing strictly porn:
Keep in mind that pornography is illegal in Thailand, and unlike prostitution, the authorities do occasionally crack down on the producers and participants. With that in mind, getting in touch with the owners of this and other major sites (some of whom also post here) would probably be the way to go. However, it probably won't be very frequent work, even if you appear on multiple sites, and it probably won't pay nearly as much as other work options. Most people either do a mix, or do porn as a sideline while working a normal job.
If you're a masseuse:
Even if it's not required by a parlor, it's always good to be trained and certified; there are a few rather different kinds of massage services. Again, your best bet if you want to simply get hired would be to go to the various parlors till you find one that has an opening. However, you may be better off offering private services, developing a reputation as a freelancer, and then leveraging it to get a lucrative table in a parlor and bring your regular customers with you. As an independent, it's more or less up to you whether your services are therapeutic (purely non-sexual), certified therapeutic (if you're certified that is), sensual, or more. Whether you have that flexibility in a parlor depends on the policies of the parlor.
Any other sort of work is basically a combination of talent, networking, self-promotion, and lots and lots of luck. However, if you're a DJ or electronic music artist, let's talk. I'm not in a position to hire though, only promote/publish.
Could you clarify what sort of work you're looking for? It might help people be able to give you a better answer.
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Posted 20 July 2007 - 01:10 PM
I'm not an expert like some of the people here, but from what I've read...
You certainly ain't !
What about a work visa ? :?
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Koykaeng
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Posted 20 July 2007 - 01:14 PM
True, but that's outside the scope of the question. Have to assume the poster is taking care of that if she's at the point of looking for work.
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Posted 21 July 2007 - 01:45 PM
I'm not an expert like some of the people here, but from what I've read...
You certainly ain't !
What about a work visa ? :?
Cheers
Koykaeng
Yeah~~ you are right !!!! I hope some company accept me and help me to gain a work visa. I preferred to work as ladyboy waitress, dress girly full time and work. Any idea??
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Posted 21 July 2007 - 02:18 PM
Ahhh...dunno about Thailand, but I have a DJ acquaintance (DJ Entropy, from Boston or thereabouts) who played once at a restaurant in New York City where all the staff are ladyboys; don't remember the name of the place though, but it's a Chinese restaurant.
However, for the most part it would probably be difficult to obtain sponsorship for that sort of job, if it's anything like here or the US, unless you have something fairly unique to offer, like a large number of fans or some international acclaim. Still, might be worth a try though--but you may be much better off trying to get that aspect taken care of yourself, unless you can land a fairly lucrative position that's going to last a while.
Put simply, it's not worth a company's while to go to a lot of trouble, or spend a lot of money, to hire internationally in a field where lots of cheap local labour is available, and most positions are fairly transient, with a high turnover and relatively low skill requirement.
However, for the most part it would probably be difficult to obtain sponsorship for that sort of job, if it's anything like here or the US, unless you have something fairly unique to offer, like a large number of fans or some international acclaim. Still, might be worth a try though--but you may be much better off trying to get that aspect taken care of yourself, unless you can land a fairly lucrative position that's going to last a while.
Put simply, it's not worth a company's while to go to a lot of trouble, or spend a lot of money, to hire internationally in a field where lots of cheap local labour is available, and most positions are fairly transient, with a high turnover and relatively low skill requirement.
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Posted 22 July 2007 - 12:47 AM
I'm not an expert like some of the people here, but from what I've read...
If you're looking for P4P work (sex trade):
Most bars seem to be somewhat willing to take just about anyone appropriate for their clientele, as long as they're drug and disease free, and have certificates to prove it. Just go to the bars and talk to the owner or mamasan.
If you're an entertainer:
Try bars that do cabaret shows. It's a fairly transient industry in that no one is tied too much to a venue, so there should almost always be demand for new talent if you've got the talent. If you're really passable and talented, getting in one of the major pageants/cabarets is a good way to get noticed, but I have no idea how you'd go about doing that.
Damn...what Thailand do you visit...certainly not the same one I do...what a bunch of misinformation...
Amy honey...stay in Hong Kong...you'll make more money there...
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Posted 22 July 2007 - 02:55 AM
That's mostly info gained from this board, or knowledge of the entertainment industry in general; nothing really specific to Thailand as I've never been there; but perhaps also some things aren't expressed clearly.
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Posted 22 July 2007 - 03:02 AM
The chance of you getting a visa to work in Thailand as a ladyboy waitress is virtually zero. The chance of you finding a company that will sponsor you and arrange your visa are less than zero.
Being a waitress in Thaialnd is incredibly low paid and there are scores of people queing up for this kind of work.
Unless you ave a specific skill that has low employment in Thailand, work for a company that has a branch in Thaialnd or have some family connection to Thailand or one of the bordering nations, it would be extremely difficult to get a work visa.
Even if you wanted to work in a bar or gogo you would have to be extremely atractive for bar owner to employ you as he would have most likely have to do it illegally.
Being a waitress in Thaialnd is incredibly low paid and there are scores of people queing up for this kind of work.
Unless you ave a specific skill that has low employment in Thailand, work for a company that has a branch in Thaialnd or have some family connection to Thailand or one of the bordering nations, it would be extremely difficult to get a work visa.
Even if you wanted to work in a bar or gogo you would have to be extremely atractive for bar owner to employ you as he would have most likely have to do it illegally.
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Posted 22 July 2007 - 04:36 AM
That's mostly info gained from this board, or knowledge of the entertainment industry in general; nothing really specific to Thailand as I've never been there; but perhaps also some things aren't expressed clearly.
Cian,
You are obviously a very intelligent and well spoken guy, and I am continually fascinated by your detailed responses to the questions posed on this forum.
However considering that you have never been to Thailand and have little if any experience with ladyboys or transexuals, much of what you write is inaccurate despite being elequontly written.
Cheers
Koykaeng
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Posted 22 July 2007 - 05:22 AM
Well, I don't take offense to being corrected, I'm here partly to learn. I apologize if anything I've written here is inaccurate and leads people on the wrong track. I will clarify, though, that I tend to write in an understated and reserved way. If I say something's "rather unlikely", for instance, that means it ain't gonna happen unless you're very very lucky or you've got an ace in the hole. "Rather difficult" = "next to impossible".
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Posted 22 July 2007 - 05:28 AM
Hi Amy, if you are attractive enough, there is a chance a cabaret show may hire you - but there is the issue regarding the work visa, and of course the language issue.
I have met a Malaysian lb who was hired to work at the Alcazar Cabaret. She was 2nd runner up in the 2006 Miss Alcazar Contest and also a contestant in the 2006 Miss International Queen Contest. She told me the Alcazar owner said she would have to work quite a few years go to offset the work visa fees Alcazar paid to get her approved to work there.
She also had to take Thai lessons as the choreographer, costumer designer, make up person all speak Thai.
So, I think it would be best you remain in Hong Kong where you can earn more money.
I have met a Malaysian lb who was hired to work at the Alcazar Cabaret. She was 2nd runner up in the 2006 Miss Alcazar Contest and also a contestant in the 2006 Miss International Queen Contest. She told me the Alcazar owner said she would have to work quite a few years go to offset the work visa fees Alcazar paid to get her approved to work there.
She also had to take Thai lessons as the choreographer, costumer designer, make up person all speak Thai.
So, I think it would be best you remain in Hong Kong where you can earn more money.
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