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[malibu515]

I’ve been here in Bangkok for almost a week and still searching for something stimulating. Staying at the Nana Hotel makes convenience to venues easy. Starting with the Nana Entertainment Complex, disappointment is rampant. Casanova, Chili’s, DC10, and the others are tired, expensive and down right sad compared to years past. Patpong’s highlight is now clothes. And, freelancers are uniquely unattractive. Is it me or do others feel the same ? I’ve been talking with other bar patrons, few and far between, as we are, and, unfortunately we are in agreement. Time to pass on visiting Bangkok for excitement.

[The-Sith]

I went to a bunch of GG bars recently Patpong, Soi Cowboy and Nana (because was with a bunch of buddies who aren't into LBs) and it was the lamest ever. Worse than strip joints back home.

At least the LB joints are still about having fun and fucking. Noticed you left out Obsessions, which I always have A+ time at.

Yet what you are picking up on is a reflection of trends. GoGo Bars are now easy access for mainstream lame-os who whacked off a few times to LB porn and are curious. The real nitty gritty is happening on the net, where you have to dig and take risk. Lots of hotties available through there. And I would say the best action is plucking amateurs. Those that haven't gone pro. Yet are young, s sexy, and horny. We all love finding a newcomer at the bars. They are on the net. They need experienced guys who can properly educate them to give up the poon and mutually explore the path down the Darkside.

The one thing that has to be refined is selection. You can get a good feeling about a girl at a bar....whether to take her home, or tell her to leave and send her friend over. Text messages, pictures, and video chats with perhaps even some video sex is the way to get a feeling for a girl online.

Only solid management of a GOGO Bar can fend off the competition of internet. The bars you listed above are not as solid as Obsessions....from my experience.

[Spyder Rocket]

I rarely go to bars anymore, but have had a lot of fun at CIB and Whynot recently.

I pull most of my labyboys from Tinder and TF. Tinder in Bangkok is much better than other places I've tried it. The action moves fast on Tinder, better than TF in many ways.

I've been lucky getting university students into Sugar daddy/Sugar baby type relationships, but you need to live here to make that work.

Nothing better than having an ladyboy show up to your place in her university uniform. Yes, college students wear uniforms here.

Sometimes I spend more than what you would in a bar, sometimes less. A night out at a Thai BBQ joint (non touristy places) with her and three of her friends costs less than drinks and banging a gal from Nana plaza.

Dinner alone with her and a shopping trip to a night market is way less expensive too. I've been able to avoid big ticket items, by merely stating that I'm not a big money guy.

The two college gals I've done this with seemed to get a feel for what I'd buy them and what I wouldn't early on. Although the hotter one could be a bit pouty when I would say no.

It's a whole different experience.

It takes a lot of juggling and sometimes you get into weird situations. Like the time I let her and a few friends come over to cook and drink at my place. Halfway through the bottle of whiskey her gay friend starts talking about how much he wanted to suck my cock.
She had been goofing around on a previous night and sent him a video of her giving me a bj. After that he was always saying he wanted to taste my cock.

I ended up letting him give me a blowjob while I made out with her on the sofa. Her two GG friends sat on my bed howling with laughter, but I did talk them into their bra and panties. Told them that it would make me feel less gay.

When I was living in Phuket, I had a relationship with a gal who had a "boyfriend" in Norway sending her 20,000 baht per month. She fucked my brains out on a regular basis and all I paid for was dinner and movies. I did have to sit quietly whenever he called her for a chat. On more than one occasion she was video chatting with him while I was playing with her cock.

There is a whole other world of mischief with ladyboys that you can tap into via social media and it is easy as hell in Bangkok.

I even scored an "old school" date with a ladyboy selling cosmetics at Watsons, all I did was smile at her and ask her a question about what kind of facial scrub to buy. I had her Line ID by the time I left the store and the next night we where fucking the hell out of each other.

All it cost me was dinner at a train market, two mixed drinks and a tube of facial scrub that I didn't really need.

Yeah, the bars are there and sometimes they are just what I need, but I agree with Sith that the action is on social media.

Regular prostitutes are there too and it is more of a gamble chemistry wise, but usually cheaper. Sometimes they use older pics, but a quick request to video chat before the meet can give you a better feel of what to expect.

[The-Sith]

Spyder Rocket,

Thanks mate! I'm going to try Tinder too. Might need some pointers on that.

There are some things that have to be given from the heart....not compelled through the leverage of cash. Plucking amateur hotties from the internet who just want to suck your cock is the wave of the future. It requires some additional work, especially for us who don't live in Thailand, (or PI), but it's almost like your trip to the LOS starts when you get on the net and start lining up that hot LB backpussy before the trip. I always like to have a stable of 3 or 4 targets I have prescreened (widdled down from list of at least a dozen plus applicants) before i land at BKK airport.

And then combined with a prostitute here or there, I have a great trip.

Actually, pros are now for mostly special situations...like if I want a Ladyboy Duo or Ladyboy Triple, or if I want to invite a GG in bed with me and one or two Lbs. Maybe a squirt of pee. Or whatever the fuck you want to try in the privacy of your room thats outside the norm, .....That kind of thing it's usually better to go to a bar and get a P4P. But for old-school hunting, old school seduction, old school one on one debauchery and fun that is one on one where you feel connection and intimacy.....it's internet amateurs all the way.

Hell, even many amateur GGs are about no nonsense fucking on the internet (because they can have discrete liasons and fulfill their sexual desires without worrying about being labelled a "slut"....this is true for BKK and LA and most places)....and Lbs are GGs on steroids when it comes to no nonsense fucking. Plucking amateur LBs from the net in Thailand is like fishing in a barrel.

Especially if you like Backpussy that doesn't smell like fish.

[Spyder Rocket]

The advantage of Tinder is that you can see how far away from you they are.

In BKK, I tend to set it at no more than 10 miles.

Move the conversation to Line or What's App quickly after you establish what they are looking for.

Some of the prostitutes are very obvious about sex for money while others are not.

If it is an ambiguous profile, I tend to ask by by saying, "what are you looking for here, friends, BF or something else?"

Sometimes I leave off the "or something else" it depends on if I think they might be looking for customers or not.

There are ones who love to collect only Facebook friends, but the good thing about Tinder is if you are talking to someone less than 10 miles from you, there is no good excuse not to meet in real life.

Everybody knows this, and that is what makes Tinder more fast paced.

A profile can be ambiguous due to lack of English language ability, so tread lightly.

You'll have to weed through a lot of GG profiles. I don't right swipe everything. The overwhelming majority of ladyboys say so in their profile. You get the hang of spotting ladyboy photos, so it isn't as tedious as it sounds.

I really wish Tinder would add a transgender option, I think they might soon.

The ones that are legitimately looking for realationships can be a lot of fun or a nightmare.

I try hard to lie as little as possible possible about my intentions. I say I want good friends first and a relationship if I find the right match, which is basically true. I do lie about how many others I'm seeing, but so do they.

The college gals that are looking for fun, or a sugar daddy to spoil them can go either way too. I've been lucky about being able to spoil them with cheap dinners, and swag from night markets. Treating them to mini vacations is a lot of fun too.

Caberet girls are awesome, but they tend to have much more expensive tastes than college gals.

I always ask about their family, mother and father's job, what part of Thailand they are from, and how many siblings to get a feel for their socio-economic status. It will go a long way in understanding how they will react to or view certain relationship dynamics.

Asking about past relationships with farangs is another good way to get insight about them.

In any big metropolitan city, there is tons of sex to be had, be it casual sex or P4P.

Tinder is just a tool to find it.

I didn't say much about how to construct your own profile, but having current, flattering profiles of you is very important. Have more than one photo!

A profile with only one is a giant red flag. Five is the max for a free account, you can also link to Instagram and FB to pull photos to Tinder.

The text of your profile is meaningless to most Thais. Keep it simple and brief.

But do master the art of taking good selfies. A selfie stick helps helps you take much better photos. Having interesting background to convey dates and location helps a lot too.

Don't be tempted to use old photos of yourself.

The hot gals almost always call you for a quick video chat once you move it to Line, to see exactly what they are dealing with. I've started doing it too.

So be prepared for a video call once you exchange Line IDs.

[The-Sith]

Spyder Rocket,

Thanks for those amazing insights. Very helpful.

I downloaded it. I think I have to pay to be able to search in Bangkok while I am away. How do I know if it's LB? By appearance or they say it.

Thanks bro.

[Spyder Rocket]

Spyder Rocket,
Thanks for those amazing insights. Very helpful.
I downloaded it. I think I have to pay to be able to search in Bangkok while I am away. How do I know if it's LB? By appearance or they say it.
Thanks bro.

You'll know if it is an LB by their pics and/or their profile states it.

You might be able to search areas you aren't currently in with an premium account, but that isn't what Tinder was made for.

Tinder is for real life hookups, and it became popular as a way to avoid getting cat-fished by some stupid assed troll thousands of miles away from you.

The maximum distance you can search on a basic account is 100 miles from your current location.

In a big city, searching in a 5 mile radius provides plenty of hits.

In BKK, Patts and Phuket there isn't a need to go beyond 10 miles.

If you want to search for girls prior to your arrival in Thailand, use something else.

Like I said, Tinder is fast paced.

I've been sitting in a Starbucks and set the distance on 1 mile and got hits on gals in the same Starbucks before.

There are other apps, like Foursquare were you "check into" bars and restaurants. I've played with a few of those when I lived in Tokyo and they are great way to break the ice with GGs.

I haven't tried going to Big Dogs in Nana Plaza and setting a tight 1 mile circle before, but I'm pretty sure that would yield a lot of hits on gals working in the bars.

It might be a good way to circumvent barfines near closing time.

[playboyninja]

Very interesting, I never thought to install tinder for LB hunting.

[Spyder Rocket]

Very interesting, I never thought to install tinder for LB hunting.

Like I said, you do have to weed through a lot of GG profiles, but there are plenty of ladyboys using it.

[P&G]

I’ve been here in Bangkok for almost a week and still searching for something stimulating. Staying at the Nana Hotel makes convenience to venues easy. Starting with the Nana Entertainment Complex, disappointment is rampant. Casanova, Chili’s, DC10, and the others are tired, expensive and down right sad compared to years past. Patpong’s highlight is now clothes. And, freelancers are uniquely unattractive. Is it me or do others feel the same ? I’ve been talking with other bar patrons, few and far between, as we are, and, unfortunately we are in agreement. Time to pass on visiting Bangkok for excitement.

 

I have had the feeling as yours. I visited Bangkok for my first time in 2011, and started exploring BKK seriously in 2013, so I hadn't experienced the good times. I have the feeling though that BKK used to be a more interesting place before. I had the feeling that bars are places where you gonna pay double price once you paid a couple of LDs, a BF, a ST room and the ST itself and that it wouldn't be better that finding a freelancer. 

I have the feeling that bar ladyboys are not really better than other ladyboys. You can even meet one that you saw in a video and still have a less than passable experience.

In 2015, I tried to explore the bar scene a little bit more to find the true advantage of bar ladyboys. I had targeted a couple of ladyboys before departing. I had been fairly disappointed. I had met 10 ladyboys either in a bar or freelancers. I also met freelancers who had worked in bars before or bar ladyboys freelancing with Thaifriendly. My conclusion was very clear : bar girl or freelancer,  the more they adhere to the bar system, the more expensive they are and the poorer their behaviour in the room. This raised such aggressive protests from mongers used to spend their time in bars only or from bar owners that they eventually banned me. 

Last year, I published no TR. I had 4 ladyboys in BKK, 5 in Cambodia, 2 in Vietnam, 2 in Koh Chang and 2 in Pattaya and also 2 GGs in Cambodia. I could have written a similar trip report; The closer they belong to the bar/massage parlor/escort system, the more likely they are to be just a gold digger. It's true that I was pickpocketed once in Cambodia and I was deceived once by a virgin (or very unexperienced femboy) in a chicken farm, but after our second meeting, her sister (a former star of Nana plaza) gave me a  few good tips about on how to find a ladyboy in Cambodia using social media. I had no time to experience it in Cambodia but I found a good hotty in Vietnam and ladyboys in Koh Chang and Pattaya thanks too her tip. I had removed Tinder from my phone in Phnom Penh  since I had only a couple of boastful contacts with it and didn't think to use it in BKK. My most successful hit had been in Koh Chang, just a few hours after passing the boarder. My phone had a poor parameter setting so I was using the Wifi of a restaurant to find a room and I found my first ladyboy in the same time. I used the "1,000 baht rule". I didn't bargain the price and waited to be over to give her money. She was 30 years old but prettier than many 24 yo bar ladyboys. We had a great time. She left without letting me give her money.

 

Regarding freelancers on Sukhumvit, I very often stayed away from them. Yet,  I was lucky last year since I found good quality meetings. I guess that Sukhumvit is fairly empty during the low season. You need to meet the right ladyboy at the right time when she's hanging there. 

 

 

I rarely go to bars anymore, but have had a lot of fun at CIB and Whynot recently.

I pull most of my labyboys from Tinder and TF. Tinder in Bangkok is much better than other places I've tried it. The action moves fast on Tinder, better than TF in many ways.

I've been lucky getting university students into Sugar daddy/Sugar baby type relationships, but you need to live here to make that work.

Nothing better than having an ladyboy show up to your place in her university uniform. Yes, college students wear uniforms here.

Sometimes I spend more than what you would in a bar, sometimes less. A night out at a Thai BBQ joint (non touristy places) with her and three of her friends costs less than drinks and banging a gal from Nana plaza.

Dinner alone with her and a shopping trip to a night market is way less expensive too. I've been able to avoid big ticket items, by merely stating that I'm not a big money guy.

The two college gals I've done this with seemed to get a feel for what I'd buy them and what I wouldn't early on. Although the hotter one could be a bit pouty when I would say no.

It's a whole different experience.

It takes a lot of juggling and sometimes you get into weird situations. Like the time I let her and a few friends come over to cook and drink at my place. Halfway through the bottle of whiskey her gay friend starts talking about how much he wanted to suck my cock.
She had been goofing around on a previous night and sent him a video of her giving me a bj. After that he was always saying he wanted to taste my cock.

I ended up letting him give me a blowjob while I made out with her on the sofa. Her two GG friends sat on my bed howling with laughter, but I did talk them into their bra and panties. Told them that it would make me feel less gay.

When I was living in Phuket, I had a relationship with a gal who had a "boyfriend" in Norway sending her 20,000 baht per month. She fucked my brains out on a regular basis and all I paid for was dinner and movies. I did have to sit quietly whenever he called her for a chat. On more than one occasion she was video chatting with him while I was playing with her cock.

There is a whole other world of mischief with ladyboys that you can tap into via social media and it is easy as hell in Bangkok.

I even scored an "old school" date with a ladyboy selling cosmetics at Watsons, all I did was smile at her and ask her a question about what kind of facial scrub to buy. I had her Line ID by the time I left the store and the next night we where fucking the hell out of each other.

All it cost me was dinner at a train market, two mixed drinks and a tube of facial scrub that I didn't really need.

Yeah, the bars are there and sometimes they are just what I need, but I agree with Sith that the action is on social media.

Regular prostitutes are there too and it is more of a gamble chemistry wise, but usually cheaper. Sometimes they use older pics, but a quick request to video chat before the meet can give you a better feel of what to expect.

 

I am glad to find guys who share the same opinion on bars. I wouldn't dare go to CIB either. I don't wanna meet a clientele that I wouldn't like to meet. 

I think that bars are becoming old fashioned. They will still have customers but if they are raided by the police as this happened in Pattaya, a fw of them will eventually close. 

 

I think that TF is already old fashioned as far as ladyboys are concerned. 80 % of the TF ladyboys in Pattaya work in bars. They just advert to attract customers to their bar. 90 % or more of the TF ladyboys in Bangkok and Pattaya are hookers either bar girls or freelancing. The main reply is "contact me when your in BKK (Pattaya), but traveling during  the low season, she's in the countryside with her family when I contact her. 

 

I am both glad to read about your sugardaddy type relationship and jealous about it. (It's the first time I feel jealous of an expat indeed). 

 

 

 

Spyder Rocket,

Thanks for those amazing insights. Very helpful.

I downloaded it. I think I have to pay to be able to search in Bangkok while I am away. How do I know if it's LB? By appearance or they say it.

Thanks bro.

 

 

You can also upload badoo. If you use badoo with your PC at home, you can set whatever location you want. I was banned from Badoo when a Cambodian girl reported me but you won't get troubles in Thailand. 

I am not convinced that a social media is better than another one. The best ones are those based on the users' location, but it's probably better to upload several of them in your phone rather than focusing on just one : thaifriendly (or TF app although it's old fashioned), badoo, Wechat and Tinder.

 

Has anybody  tested this website once in Thailand ? https://fanfinfin.com/

[The-Sith]

Spyder Rocket,

Thanks for the tip on TINDER. within my third day I hooked up with my first NewHalf ever. So gentle and subservient and totally perverted. A different experience than Thai Lbs.

Every part of my body was there for her to lick including under my knees and and bottom of my feet.

I'm always open to more social media methods.

[P&G]

I'm always open to more social media methods.

 

 

Badoo and Wechat. Wechat is not only a messenger, it's got a search function.