12 replies to this topic

[pattman69]

Ok Guys,
 
Heres something for you. A bit long winded but here I go. I,m not seeking approval or redemption but am in search of opinions both good & bad. I have noticed here that many mongers seem to favour first GG's with LB's as a welcome extra. This is where I am at & its on recently that I have sought the company of someone who understands my additional needs, ie Ladybiys.
 
A common theme it appears is crossdressing. I am the first to admit without any shame that I love to crossdress.My rationale is that if slinky, silky material turns me on with a GG or an LB why would I not feel sexy wearing it...??? From what I have read with a few noticeable exceptions I see this as  an open minded forum.  I believe we are not here to condemn or crucify so I would appreciate some honest responses.
 
If you imagine being a guy whose preference is for GG's but also has a fantasy of luring a beautiful "girl" to bed only to find a hidden surprise in her panties & being turned on by the prospect why would it not turn you on to wear something feminine yourself to bring you closer to what is in truth is the validation you  are seeking?
 
To me I think this is why I have finally sought ladyboys out. It is a chance to be myself with someone who actually understands. Does anyone relate to what i'm saying here? If you meet me I actually appear to be a guy who is not to be fucked with which is true but in many ways but I have a hidden feminine side that I am sure many mongers here can relate to.
 
So I would also like to ask as I am still feeling my way here what if any response mongers here have when a gorgeous ladyboy has unzipped /unbuttoned their pants & found something satin, silky or similar to what they are wearing beneath?
 
I have done this at home & generally found LB's to be responsive because they have found a kindred spirit without inhibitions who also to a degree understands there inclinations. I appreciate ant feedback.

[donnykey]

. I appreciate ant feedback.

 

 

 Pattman  i don't think we have any ants on the forum.

 

Sorry....couldn't resist.

 

Cheers DK

[boomdraw]

so you want to be a old albino whos out of shape and not in demand to women but somehow when dressed as a girl your gonna be the apple of a katoeys eye? many gay men here are just as you are, ladyboys themselves and its perfectly fine. ive noticed on many lb whore adds that they welcome other cds to play with them. im so glad Im a guy, I don't shave my legs, my ass, my face, my armpits, my arms, my chest, I don't have to do enamas to make room for cock etc etc etc. but if u want to do all these things just to ''feel'' like yourself and be apriciated for having the market value of a cockroach friend in soybean oil sold on kalson rd be our guest.

[pattman69]

Heya,

 

Cheers donneykey you are 100% right, I wont be looking for any feed back from the ants...haha!

 

I must also thankyou boomdraw for correcting me with your usual eloquence. I apologise sincerely for not being

 

a) a retiree (about 30 years to go there old son)

b) Not being in need of Chemical assistance just to get it up.

c) Not being balding & 50 pounds overweight)

d) Being Fit & tanned (can you even remember what that was like...haha!)

e) Not hating life, myself & everyone younger, fitter & much better looking than me

f) Not having Ladyboy's cringe or run away when they see me & joke about my inadequacies behind my back.

g) Not being a miserable, mean hater, ie referring to people as "piglets" Charming.  I will work on that...!!!

h) Not being a man ( because clearly  Ladyboys love monkey "Men" suffering incontinence with a rampant turd turtleling from their smashed rectums. Sexy....

i) And last but not least I do apologise for affronting your sense of "masculinity" by indulging myself  occasionally  & wearing some soft, silky, sensual panties. I can see the obvious distress this would cause you being such a "masculine" chap yourself. I also apologise for all the other guys I have seen write about similar things & shall pretend similar photos on trip reports don't exist just to keep your sense of propriety intact.

 

I certainly wont bother you with trying to be a friend. I am not a hater but am sure I would gain more from the company of "cockroaches". May your miserable life be an even longer one.

 

To all other members I apologise for this outburst but I have read this guys nonsense (& it is nonsense literally insulting everyone including the brave soldiers who have represented us all abroad) & will not respond in kind to the inevitable trivialities coming my way from this unfortunate cretin.

[Woof1]

Well said Pattman.

Could have titled it "Ode To The Cretin"

[Macman]

Your response to boomdraw was spot-on, well thought out, and quite appropriate.  No need to apologize for your "outburst".  I'm sorry that I can't give any feedback on your topic because I'm not familiar with the subject, but I wanted to respond anyway.

[mrfeizhu]

boomdraw is obliviously   not a cross dresser but many homosexuals don t cross-dress

[MrWhippy]

In an attempt to comment on your admirably candid discussion topic Pattman, personally I haven't contemplated indulging myself in such attire because I think, no, I know I would look pretty grotesque. But I can understand why you get a kick out of it, hell, it fulfills the needs of regular ladyboys and we (on here) don't mock them for it (Boomdraw excepted). They have all at least cross-dressed at some point before some of them progressed onto bodily modifications to move further away from masculinity.

 

Sex is so much about what has been individually manifested in our psyche. I love LB's because they are mind-bending, they contradict what we have been trained to think and that makes life very interesting indeed. But, this is the point, it is about individual receptiveness to your fantasies and whether the LB can sufficiently bend their mind to entertain the idea of participating in your desires. Money might be sufficiently persuasive, some LB's might actually enjoy it without the brown vouchers, and some will run a mile. Many LB's are resolutely not "lesbian" yet many asian LB's will readliy engage (and enjoy) sex with another asian LB even if they are purely a crossdresser, but would throw up at the thought of a Falang in stockings and suspenders. So you're probably a little restricted in finding the right LB to team up with and even more restricted to select someone who will appreciate the "surprise" and empathise.  But I wish you success in your quest, we're all peculiar in our own way when it comes to what tuns us on, and Boomdraw is, this time, no exception. 

 

Mr Whippy

[dixon cox]

I suspect many ladyboys would love the opportunity to help a farang who likes to cross-dress and put on make-up, but for them I doubt it would be for any sexual pleasure or excitement, more for the fun factor. I haven't met a ladyboy yet who is gay, either homosexual or lesbian. But for the right money some will oblige in any combination, while other true and less whore-like ladyboys would balk at the thought.
 
Even in the UK there are many cross-dressing services available, so there is a market for it. The guy gets a kick out of dressing-up and the girl (TV or ladyboy) does it for the financial reward.
 
I do wonder whether there's any truth in the thought that many of us secretly wish we were a pretty ladyboy and ultimately get thrills from making guys go wild for us, there must be a buzz in doing that. LB's accentuate all the feminine attributes that men crave for sexually, so to be a good looking one could be the envy of many men. 
 
I can understand the desire to want to do it, but I know I'd look appalling. If I looked good I'd probably dress up and give out the occasional free hand job just for the thrill of it. But not being a bottom would rule out anything else.

[JustSumGai]

Heya,

 

Cheers donneykey you are 100% right, I wont be looking for any feed back from the ants...haha!

 

I must also thankyou boomdraw for correcting me with your usual eloquence. I apologise sincerely for not being

 

a) a retiree (about 30 years to go there old son)

b) Not being in need of Chemical assistance just to get it up.

c) Not being balding & 50 pounds overweight)

d) Being Fit & tanned (can you even remember what that was like...haha!)

e) Not hating life, myself & everyone younger, fitter & much better looking than me

f) Not having Ladyboy's cringe or run away when they see me & joke about my inadequacies behind my back.

g) Not being a miserable, mean hater, ie referring to people as "piglets" Charming.  I will work on that...!!!

h) Not being a man ( because clearly  Ladyboys love monkey "Men" suffering incontinence with a rampant turd turtleling from their smashed rectums. Sexy....

i) And last but not least I do apologise for affronting your sense of "masculinity" by indulging myself  occasionally  & wearing some soft, silky, sensual panties. I can see the obvious distress this would cause you being such a "masculine" chap yourself. I also apologise for all the other guys I have seen write about similar things & shall pretend similar photos on trip reports don't exist just to keep your sense of propriety intact.

 

I certainly wont bother you with trying to be a friend. I am not a hater but am sure I would gain more from the company of "cockroaches". May your miserable life be an even longer one.

 

To all other members I apologise for this outburst but I have read this guys nonsense (& it is nonsense literally insulting everyone including the brave soldiers who have represented us all abroad) & will not respond in kind to the inevitable trivialities coming my way from this unfortunate cretin.

 

do what I do, put him on Ignore. 

[pattman69]

I have looked at that initial post & think I may have given the impression that I want something that is to all intents & purposes an occasional fetish to become a way of life. Nothing could be further from the truth. That would take the fun out of it! 

 

I am very happy being a man & just like to indulge myself on occasion with someone (ie a LB) who not only understands but I imagine see's my fetish as a relatively minor diversion from the straight & narrow.

 

I think many of us see ourselves as being more enlightened than those outside this circle & therefore more understanding of behaviours that are not mainstream (how boring that is...haha!) As long as any member here is not setting out with the intention of hurting or humiliating another or acting outside the law I will never bag anyone on these pages for being who they are. 

 

I think its obvious we are all here because we are following a road less travelled & to a large degree we are on the same page. To the the average Joe fancying a LB makes us weird fucks. We know we are daring to live outside the parameters society sets makes us more multi faceted & to like a different fabric (ie, Silk, Satin, PVC, leather etc)  or have a non hurtful fetish is pretty trivial in the scheme of things.

 

I would like to thank some of the guys who've taken the time to reply above (Macman, Mr Whippy & Dixon Cox) & those who have PM'ed me also with their opinions & experiences. 

 

I love reading this forum & sharing the your combined experiences & wisdom. I will leave this subject behind now (no pun intended..  ) & hope to contribute further in the future.

[boomdraw]

enjoy your life, sorry if i came across as a asshole.