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[Moo Yung]

I'd guess 10,000 Baht would be enough to live comfortably in most parts of Isarn, barring in mind the fact she'll be getting easy money will mean other family and friends looking to her to feed their habits and hunger - and maybe in time encouraging her to push for more money and 'emergency loans'.

 

IMO, the amount is usually irrelevant with regards to whether someone will maintain a drug habit, freelance on the streets, or sleep around in general. If those habits are in their make-up, pre-existing, or they are hanging around in the wrong crowds, their budget won't make make too much difference. There are ladyboys out in the boondocks earning 50 baht per day, or even in big cities, working the early morning 7/Eleven shift, who work hard and have a lot of self respect, while there are others out there getting 'sponsorship' money of 100,000+ per month, promising their farang boyfriends they are behaving while they still freelance for small money, party with their friends, and even pay to sleep with karaoke boys. 

 

I've never 'sponsored' someone but I'm a little less cynical about it, and I don't see the problem when guys earning big money in the west send a little back to a favourite girl or ladyboy, I just don't like to see it done by guys who can't afford it, or the guys who do it hoping they'll get more love and loyalty in return. If you want to help someone and you have money to burn just offer what you can comfortably afford and if they are a decent person and have a connection with you they'll be grateful whatever the figure.

[yung havok]

Im going to send 200 bucks a month, and thats it. Thats all i feel comfortable sending, that way i can say i kept my promise, did what i could , without losing my shirt. I start work next week, 6 months at a 

shipyard, it'll get me through the summer. After the yankees win the world series ill be back on a plane, for as long as i can make it last. not just my money but this relationship. if it doesnt work out im going to have to figure out a way to stay in thailand permanently or put it on the shelf for a while because i took 3 trips in the past 12 months and its burying me. 

Going to issan really opened my eyes to thailand after only seeing the redlight areas for so long. but i still find it impossible to trust thais and i believe this is eventually going to do us in. I mean i cant tell you how many times i said to her face "i dont beleive a damn thing that comes out of your mouth". 

I dont know why i love this ladyboy. I remember one day we were visiting her friends at this shanty town area she was staying at in bangkok, shes so good with the young kids and she was feeding the toddlers and she was able to stop this baby from crying, not even the babys own mother could do that, i was genuinely charmed,not 2 minutes later we're in the communal bathroom and shes throwing up all over my dick.

 

[yung havok]

Its been almost 2 months since I've seen the myth of my beloved. This whole thing is on its last leg. She says all the right things, she's staying in her hometown, but I just cant get my head right. She called me on line 3 times yesterday its just to much. I sent her 6000 baht at the beginning of the month and I was planning on sending another 6000 in a couple weeks but I dont think its going to last.
she was asking me about making silicone boobs for her. I mean I dont even blame her. Why not ask. But fuck it ..if I do that plus send her money every month that's almost 3 grand right there.thats alot of shortimes. And im not sure I even want to stay with her for a couple months this winter. That's how long I plan on staying when I go back. Id rather just travel alone. As much as I like her, its like being with a God Damn baby sometimes. All these things have me thinking I better jump ship before It gets to serious before I end up committing to much. Besides it pisses me off thinking im sending her money she says she loves me and is waiting for me alone when shes probably fucking thai guys everyday. Please advise.

[yung havok]

Full disclosure in none of the three line calls did she ask for money or boobs in fact its been a while since we've talked about this. These calls were the usual I love you come back soon do I look pretty calls.

[veveron]

Sounds like valid resentment. Better to stop now than to keep going and regret it later.

[Spyder Rocket]

Anytime you get involved in a relationship, you are taking on some sort of responsibility.

If it is a romantic relationship with a Thai from a rural village, there are going to be financial responsibilities added onto emotional responsibilities.

If you are having doubts about your ability, or desire, to cope with the demands that will be put on you, I'd get out it, before you are in too deep.

I think a person must be honest to themselves first, before they can ever be honest and true to another.

I came to the realization a long time ago, that I am either, unable or unwilling, to cope with the demands of being a steady boyfriend or husband. Add in the complications that come with getting emotionally attached to someone from a different culture, and the language barriers that might be present, and that is what keeps me single.

Then there are the trust issues, I won't get into those because they are so numerous and obvious.

If I ever meet someone who makes the normal sacrifices of a relationship, seem as they are not a burden, then I might admit that such a thing as love exists.

[yung havok]

Thanks for the advice.
Its going to be twice as painful because not only do I have to deal with the breakup but I have to think about her packing up and going back to pattaya or bkk and putting her ass out on the street again...I know i cant be responsible for that but its just another thing thats going to weigh me down. And its just a bad situation for her combined with the bad influences of some of her friends, smoking, lack of customers, she's just barely getting by. Its almost like she does it because she's got nothing else.
Its like im adopting a kid in Uganda or something but instead of 2 bucks a month its gonna cost me 200 and instead of a post card and a picture im gonna get my ass licked
Its all the horror stories I've heard in person and on the forums from jaded older guys(I dont mean this disrespectfully, but thats the way it is) that is unfortunately making it impossible for me to think this can work.
Its the horror at the reality of becoming a sponsor thats most upsetting. Like the idea that sending someone 200 bucks a month is enough to keep them bound and chained to you its ridiculous, I dont even want to think that way.
If he didn t give head as good as he does this decision would be a lot easier..but damn damn damn..

[Spyder Rocket]

. Like the idea that sending someone 200 bucks a month is enough to keep them bound and chained to you its ridiculous, I dont even want to think that way.
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Your comment made me think of the following:

I sure as hell don't want anyone owning me, and I sure as hell don't want the responsibility of owning another person either.

Besides, is it really possible to own another person? Other than slavery, I suspect it isn't possible; besides, even slaves are free to feel and think on their own.

I'm not sure if that is relevant to your situation, but I suspect what makes relationships so difficult, is that people are unrealistic about what they expect from others.

If you can help this person without feeling you are being taken advantage of, then do so. However, I don't think you should feel obligated, nor do I think you should ever expect them to wrap themselves in cellophane and sit on a shelf while you are on the other side of the world.

That might be asking too much, just as if they asked you to provide two thousand a month.

[veveron]

Well, if you don't want, you don't have to completely break it off.  You can just stop sending the money, she's not your son after all.  If it's amicable then you can pick up paying and getting that mighty fine cock sucking when you get back.  

 

I mean I fucking overpay like hell, especially with one gg out of nana, and wouldn't rather give that money to anyone else in the world , but I'd never send her a quid when I'm not there.  

[yung havok]

I've been to thailand 7 times and I've never sent a girl money or overpaid. To put it in the most basic terms I've never been hustled. I just feel like its time to let up a little and sacrifice a little bit. Maybe something good will come out of it. She wants some big ole titties way bigger than would even look right on his little body and honestly it turns me on thinking about it. Even a cheap nose job and some fake braces. Like im paying for some kind of Frankenstein sex toy shit.

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[yung havok]

Im on deck to send another 200 bucks in a few days. I've distanced myself from the ladyboy the last week because I just want to clear my head and think it through. I've been playing alot of golf lately, not as much as id like but whenever I have free time. Beleive it or not my love for the game might be the reason I cut the kid off. The idea of going to thailand, bringing my clubs and playing a shitload of courses in issan, especially when the weather's cooler in November and December really sounds good. That and just floating around and banging whoever I want doesn't sound like a bad couple of months.
I think anyone who's been with a ladyboy knows that they're either one of two things, a hardened money making shark or an over grown infant. My girl falls into the infant category. God forbid she had to walk a few blocks, or kill 3-4 hours while I played golf, or couldn't get the WiFi going on her phone. The pouting can be cute at times but sometimes you get a grip on reality and say" be a godamn man for second would ya" its true I miss the heck out of her now, but I know it won't be so bad when im going through customs and waiting for my pings at the baggage claim.
The other thing is that after spending five weeks together the sex kinda gto boring after a month. I mean I've never been with a ladyboy that long, im a top so it just kinda became her lying there on her back jerking off while i tried to plow the shit out of her. It kinda lost its luster. She would occasionally throw up while gagging on my dick and say fuck you which was funny in its own right, but I kinda started getting bored I would even close my eyes and think about the three some I had with two of the big dicked Cambodians from cascade bar just to help me get off.

[yung havok]

If you'd sell your ass for 500 baht then how can your word mean anything to me